[NO Spoilers] Star Wars: Episode 7 - NO PUSSY SHIT
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Sterling
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I would certainly say that the original trilogy had a goodly amount of campy type dialogue and isn't exactly a Tarrantino or Kevin Smith movie, but there wasn't anything that remotely equaled some of the god awful shit in the prequels. The whole "NO I LOVE YOU" shit was so bad for example.
iannis
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The dialogue in the first three fits a lot better with the pace and mood of the story. There's some goofy shit in there for sure "Aren't you a little short for a storm trooper?" (lol sick burn) "WELL EXPLAIN TO ME HOW IN THE FUCK THE ARMOR FITS THEN, YOU SNARKY FUCKING BITCH".
But that's the difference. The dialogue, even when it was bad, served the charm of the first three. The dialogue is just another thing to hate about the prequels.
But that's the difference. The dialogue, even when it was bad, served the charm of the first three. The dialogue is just another thing to hate about the prequels.
ohkcrlho
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yup...
nothing is worse than shit like:
Padme: We used to come here for school retreat. We would swim to that island every day. I love the water. We used to lie out on the sand and let the sun dry us and try to guess the names of the birds singing.
Anakin: I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth.
Jar-Jar Binks: Ooh mooey mooey I love you!
Qui-Gon Jinn: You almost got us killed! Are you brainless?
Jar-Jar Binks: I spake!
Qui-Gon Jinn: The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. Now get out of here.
Obi-Wan: You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them. You were to bring balance to the force, not leave it in darkness.
Anakin Skywalker: [shouts] I hate you.
Obi-Wan: You were my brother, Anakin. I loved you.
Chukzombi
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luke being leia's sister feels like it was tacked on last minute so lucas could have another "big reveal" at the end of RoTJ like kirshner did in empires.
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iannis
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It was set up in Empire though with the "No, there is another" from Yoda. As soon as they do that, they have to pay out who the "other" pseudo-jedi is in the next movie. Having it be Leia saves them from having to do the even more obvious thing of introducing a new character in ROTJ to deliver the payout on that line.
That part is pre-meditated and well executed.
The really hamfisted shit is during the Ewok Orgy luke turning and giving the thumbs up to the ghosts. That part is tacked on as FUCK. Someone said "But if luke is just standing there alone, people won't get that he is ONE with the FORCE, and never -really- alone. We need ghosts to visually represent that!"
Prequel Lucas would have just introduced a new character. And prequel lucas basically put ghosts everywhere in an attempt to lazily clarify everything for his retarded audience, but really all he managed to do was make the entire thing a shallow convoluted mess of dumb shit.
I'm pretty sure that was in the movie pre-lucas adding in all sorts of bullshit later. It's kinda pivotal really.
Chukzombi
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if lucas had the "another" intended all along as luke having leia as his sister, he probably did not tell Kirshner that. unless when kirshner directed that kissing scene between luke and leia in Hoth, thats how he likes to get his freak on. it would make more sense that luke had an older brother named Han. ya know because a princess of alderan might have her lineage questioned, unless they name everyone on alderaan prince and princess. and this particular princess remembers her mother.
iannis
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Sure, it coulda gone either way, no argument with that. The point being that from the second movie they had an idea that Luke wasn't the one and only hope for the universe.
I know the success of the movie surprised everyone, and they weren't locked into thinking about movies as serial franchises, so you really can't blame anyone for not thinking that far ahead from day 1. In that sense Empire and Jedi were both just tacked on.
And the kiss is not that egregious. Random dude broke her ass out of jail and swung her across a broken bridge like fucking Erol Flynn -- yeah, that's probably worth a peck on the cheek. It wasn't like a sultry pornstar kiss.
I know the success of the movie surprised everyone, and they weren't locked into thinking about movies as serial franchises, so you really can't blame anyone for not thinking that far ahead from day 1. In that sense Empire and Jedi were both just tacked on.
And the kiss is not that egregious. Random dude broke her ass out of jail and swung her across a broken bridge like fucking Erol Flynn -- yeah, that's probably worth a peck on the cheek. It wasn't like a sultry pornstar kiss.
Blackyce
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Blackyce
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Both the Empire big reveal and Jedi were tacked on late in the script developement.
Blackyce
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You really need to understand that more than likely, Lucas added the "there is another" without even thinking about who that other would be until RotJ was being written. That's how he does shit and that's why the continuity between the prequals and the original trilogy is so bad and even the continuity between movies in the original trilogy is bad.
I thought the worst actor in New Hope was Alec Guinness.
I just watched that again a couple days ago, and good lord that guy over acts compared to the rest of the cast.
I just watched that again a couple days ago, and good lord that guy over acts compared to the rest of the cast.
Blackyce
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Possibly but I never got the feeling the story was forced. The entire prequal trilogy I felt that and it just felt like I was having shit crammed down my throat watching it.
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I would wager that's because he was the only real actor in the movie at the time.