[NO Spoilers] Star Wars: Episode 7 - NO PUSSY SHIT

Kids is also sort of a loose term. It'll be a "starwars babies" movie but the "kids" are gonna be 20somethings.

I mean they sort of let that slip when they revealed they didn't want to make it unless they can include Hamil, Ford, and Fischer.

It's dumb because the Star Wars Universe is an very large stage. But you can thank Lucas and his objectively terrible ideas for terrifying them away from the idea of using it as a setting rather than a specific story. Or even a story with different kinds of characters. Star Wars = Han Solo + someone named Skywalker + Magic + Spaceships.

Arch_sl said:

I thought their intended "design" was to put out a "trilogy" movie every other year while putting out an off shoot movie within the universe (The Adventures of Bobba Fett!) on the years in between.

essentially putting out a movie every year within the universe. I may be wrong on that but when they were doing their initial announcements I thought that was the plan.

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Not much different, really, than what the Marvel movies are doing. Pretty much the same damn thing, actually, and it is working very well for them; it's a copycat world.

I am wondering in my mind if we are going to get some kind of mish-mash of EU stuff in this; chaotic mess of New Jedi Order and Thrawn Trilogy. As soon as I saw Sydow on the casting list, I thought Jorus C'Baoth; Serkis, I thought Noghri. Obviously JJ would have to curtail his beloved time travel /alternate dimension business, but I don't think I would be averse to him recycling some of those characters (I assume Lucas has all the rights to them, and not the authors) in a new storyline. To me, taking a bunch of those characters and doing what he wants with them without being confined by 20 years of EU novels seems like a very Abrams thing to do. Come to think of it, its the exact same thing he did with Star Trek, except in Star Trek he was able to do it within the confines of that universe; with Star Wars you needed the hand of God King Lucas to do it outside of a film.

I guess that once you experience Thrawn, you realize he is perhaps the greatest Star Wars character (and definitely the greatest Star Wars villain) ever created, and you start seeing him in the shadows everywhere and hoping beyond all reason he shows up on film. If Hugo Weaving was on that casting list, that would confirm it, for sure.

Just because they say the EU isn't canon doesn't mean they won't pick and choose the good stuff.

Also, I think you might be in the extreme minority. There are a lot of Star Wars fans who never read the books (this guy).

yeah. my EU is mostly games, and bits and pieces of comics.

The clone wars TV series did bring up alot of EU stuff btw.
As Alex said. They may pick and choose. Sadly this doesn't always mean they will pick the right stuff... Moribund...

Maul surviving, was EU first. Brought up in The clone wars. (although, its version was not as liked.)
Ventress good end marginally hinted at.
Mandalorians.
Living force.
Grey Jedi.
Darth Bane and iirc Revan both name checked. while Bane showed up.


Granted it had magic force gods too...

I just recently started watching the Clone Wars cartoons on Netflix. I'm surprised how good they are. I've really been enjoying them.

It's going to be the kids taking action for their parents. Momma and Poppa solo are too entrenched in the politics to go out and do espionage shit so their kids will either do it at their behest or do it without their knowing. I'm sure it'll be Luke teaching Jedi shit, Leia ruling the New Republic, Han wanting to get into trouble, but the kids doing the actual action. I'm sure it'll have the "Luke force 10,000 soldiers at once" type scene that'll satisfy some people's wants. Leia will shoot some guy threatening Han, yada yada.

I don't think any of the main cast outside of Luke is in any sort of shape to be jumping from sand barges and dodging poorly aimed blaster bolts.

Alex_sl said:

I just recently started watching the Clone Wars cartoons on Netflix. I'm surprised how good they are. I've really been enjoying them.

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yeah. they are very good. MILES above the prequels.
they actually do a great job of giving Anakin an actual characterization. Makes the heel turn far far more believable.

and while Ashoka starts as typical insert character everyone thought they were going to hate. they do a good job with her as well. and really nail her finale.

I think the original clone war movie set the stage pretty poorly. a lot of people were expecting gendy tartokofsky's clone wars, and got a kiddie film. I know I didn't care about the show AT ALL after I saw the film. but thankfully Netflix is awesome so i'm up to season 3 right now. I knew from comments on this board that it got pretty awesome I just didn't have a way to watch it at that point.

also, movies with kids as main characters can be fine. they can be great, even. most of the time we immediately sigh when we find out kids are main characters but let me provide you with exhibit A: Goonies.

besides, the "kids" are more "young adults" at this point. the same age that luke was in a new hope. i'm reserving judgement till we have more info. clone wars did a great job of picking and choosing EU characters... let's hope the movies can continue the trend. They've already said that star wars: rebels is going to do the same... though... not sure if i'll be able to watch that... it seems too juvenile for me. we'll see.

The problem with post RotJ stories, including most of what was in the EU is you end up with really bad insert bad guy here stories, it ends up being a bad serial, where every time a bad guy dies a new one randomly pops up in his place. The only real conflict that is there that isnt just crudely inserted is the rebel alliance morphing into the new republic. I will be happy if the new films are well acted, but there is a a high of having some random bad guy who has never been mentioned before just pop up and start doing bad things for probably no reason like a cartoon villain. I want GOT levels of complex character motivations, but I fully expect a repeat of the prequels where we get elmer fud levels of character development.

Jesus you guys are so miserable and pessimistic! Disney has the chops and wherewithal to axe a terrible pos in production, or to fire a big name director like JJ and get someone else if he is not doing a good job. The scripts are going to be written by people that want to make an amazing story, and edited by folks that want the movies not to be shit. That right there is going to make them better than the prequels since it isn't just one guy writing the whole thing with no oversight. These are going to be entertaining, fast paced movies that I am going to enjoy because the bar is set so incredibly low.

Arakkis_sl said:

These are going to be entertaining, fast paced movies that I am going to enjoy because the bar is set so incredibly low.

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Anything was going to be an improvement when compared to the prequels but that's like saying slamming your hand between a car door would be better too

Iannis_sl said:

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the version i know of that "joke" is

and i agree clone wars tv show was pretty good. now if they can do good movies......

Lenardo_sl said:

the version i know of that "joke" is

Spoiler

why is six afraid of seven

because seven eight nine

and i agree clone wars tv show was pretty good. now if they can do good movies......

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yeah, that is all wrong.
shouldn't the joke be Why is six afraid of seven?
Because nine, seven, eight?

OUAriakas_sl said:

I hope you are being sarcastic. They have a track record of spending a ton of money on live action films that draw the entire famliy but end up being about 5/10 in terms of story and long-lasting appeal. None of the movies are great, they are just ok to good.

The SorcerersApprentice
Prince of Persia:The Sands of Time
John Carter
Oz the Great and Powerful

That list should tell you that the movie is going to be geared towards pre-teens and early teens because that is where they will make it a "box-office success" with little to no soul.

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Its even worse. I was going to make alist too. but got bored.

that is only like 5 out of 20 Disney Live action movies, and yeah. only muppets and Enchanted, is any better then those listed. It really is a bad track record.