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Kedwyn

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It will be interesting if scary to see where this goes. I watched that documentary last night and what a fucked up situation. I never seen anything like that before.

Sad thing is I wonder if they'll start shit now knowing it really can't get much worse for them and Europe / the United States really can't afford another war there. I know we'd mobilize and fight but holy shit that is the worst place and opponent for a war. You can't bomb them into the stone age they are already there.
 
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There's definitely high value targets in NK that could be bombed. I'm sure that anyone of importance in the NK govt has some kind of fucked up vault buried into the ground though.
 
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I just don't get why we haven't taken the people in power right now and head shot the lot. So many people suffer because of this crap. It is saddening.
 
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Because a ground war against NK would result in untold casualties, and Americans aren't willing to sacrifice that for the NK people.
 
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jooka_sl said:
I just don't get why we haven't taken the people in power right now and head shot the lot. So many people suffer because of this crap. It is saddening.
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You would turn the leadership into Martyr's which would just reinforce the current situation.
 
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jooka_sl said:
I just don't get why we haven't taken the people in power right now and head shot the lot. So many people suffer because of this crap. It is saddening.
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There is nothing in North Korea that the USA wants. Your country does not spend massive amounts of money invading others for the good of humanity. You do not even need the area for a regional base as you have South Korea for that.

Sorry for being anti-American, but I don't like it when people delude themselves over foreign policy.
 
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Flank_sl said:
There is nothing in North Korea that the USA wants. Your country does not spend massive amounts of money invading others for the good of humanity. You do not even need the area for a regional base as you have South Korea for that.

Sorry for being anti-American, but I don't like it when people delude themselves over foreign policy.
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exactly which Country do you come from doing crap about the people suffering in North Korea, Flank.
 
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Araxen_sl said:
You would turn the leadership into Martyr's which would just reinforce the current situation.
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Imagine post-nazi germany (if invaded immediately)
it's gonna be like that.
for real.

south korea may receive billions in aid from U.N. and U.S for couple years, I am guessing, to feed these people.
 
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Araxen_sl said:
China has to be fuming right now because we are beefing up our military in the Pacific. This is the last thing they want to happen.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/us-be...against-nkorea

If China has any power over North Korea at all the Kim's won't be on power much longer.
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China has the best card to play because they have the other Kim on their radar because Jong Un was trying to assassinate him and then asked China to turn him over to NK. China said no and is still protecting and hiding him. The chinese guy I know thinks that china will just assassinate Jong Un themselves if he gets too out of hand and put the brother Kim in charge.

That is prolly the best outcome for all parties involved, the question is if the chinese could manage it without the whole country falling to pieces. Unless Jong Un comes back on board soon the chinese are not gonna tolerate it, he makes them look weak and is pretty much the perfect storm of a fuckup.
 
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It would be way worse than post Nazi Germany because there were still Germans alive in post Nazi Germany who knew what life was like before the National Socialists came to power and tried to rewrite the entirety of German society around their nonsense.

North Korea has been Nazi Germany for 50 years. Mean average age there is in the mid 40s or 50s, which means almost no one alive today was alive prior to the advent of the Juche leadership.

It would be far harder to unbrainwash the North Koreans than it was the Germans, I fear. Its really bad there.

Its like trying to convince a 60 year old die hard religious person that their religious beliefs are not founded in reality. Pretty much impossible. People get set in their ways.
 
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Just ship them all to South Korea and ship the population of the red states of America to North Korea. Everybody wins!
 
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hodj_sl said:
It would be way worse than post Nazi Germany because there were still Germans alive in post Nazi Germany who knew what life was like before the National Socialists came to power and tried to rewrite the entirety of German society around their nonsense.

North Korea has been Nazi Germany for 50 years. Mean average age there is in the mid 40s or 50s, which means almost no one alive today was alive prior to the advent of the Juche leadership.

It would be far harder to unbrainwash the North Koreans than it was the Germans, I fear. Its really bad there.

Its like trying to convince a 60 year old die hard religious person that their religious beliefs are not founded in reality. Pretty much impossible. People get set in their ways.
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But kpop.

i actually think brainwashing is overstated once the information becomes free for people to access. All the lies will be revealed and any legitimacy held by Kim Dynasty will collapse. Pure speculation. Don't know if this assessment is real.
 
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I think the transition would be easier than people think as long as South Korea would come in with shit loads of food. The majority of North Korea is starving and feeding them would go a very long way to ease the pain.
 
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Araxen_sl said:
China has to be fuming right now because we are beefing up our military in the Pacific. This is the last thing they want to happen.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/us-be...against-nkorea


If China has any power over North Korea at all the Kim's won't be on power much longer.
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China doesn't want to feed 24+ million hungry mouths and deal with them flooding into China if NK collapses for one reason or the other so they have to be extra careful not to break the NK system without a way to replace it with something that will keep the people contained within NK's borders.
 
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Newbie/ignorant question here.

Wouldn't unification between North and South completely decimate the South's economy even if we were flooding cash into the new Korea? It would take awhile for North Korea, even with aid, to catch up to our standards and be competitive. After all it's more than about bringing a third world nation up to par but also integration/de-nazification (or whatever you want to call it) and unlike in previous occurrences - unification of the Germany etc - we have a wider gap in skill and technology (which also means infrastructure). So I am going to guess we're going to have to sustain more than 10 years of aid and god knows what else. Basically, this doesn't seem like something the international community can handle right now nor can South Korea.

So really, would the transition be so easy or would it be like an IED?
 
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Limz_sl said:
Newbie/ignorant question here.

Wouldn't unification between North and South completely decimate the South's economy even if we were flooding cash into the new Korea? It would take awhile for North Korea, even with aid, to catch up to our standards and be competitive. After all it's more than about bringing a third world nation up to par but also integration/de-nazification (or whatever you want to call it) and unlike in previous occurrences - unification of the Germany etc - we have a wider gap in skill and technology (which also means infrastructure). So I am going to guess we're going to have to sustain more than 10 years of aid and god knows what else. Basically, this doesn't seem like something the international community can handle right now nor can South Korea.

So really, would the transition be so easy or would it be like an IED?
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Unification of Germany cost a huge amount ($1.9 trillion) and West Germany had 63 million people compared to East Germany's 16 million (1990).
South Korea has 50 million people compared to North's 24 million so it's more like 2:1 instead of Germany's 4:1 ratio even without the vastly greater difference in the economic gap.
 
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