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Gadrel_sl

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I'm pretty sure the amount of food they need is decreasing over time, just like their population, birth rate, and life expectancy.
 

Tuco

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Needs is not needs to be imported, but what side of the 0 the acceleration of needs to be imported falls is only shown by data I doubt we have.
 

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you're a crazy nutbag where the fuck does using the roman model of conquest, I don't even.

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God NK is so fucking annoying. Only reason they exist still is no one wants to deal with the damn mess that would be created dealing with them.
 

Salshun_sl

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God NK is so fucking annoying. Only reason they exist still is no one wants to deal with the damn mess that would be created dealing with them.
To me, fucking with NK is like this: This jackass down the block is talking shit but has 2 million starving kids and a house covered in cat shit. You want to whup his ass, but then you realize you can't just fuck his shit up and bounce because the people in his house besides him didn't do shit, a ton of them are going to die if you fight this guy, probably mainly by him. Then you realize this fuck is probably going to make life MORE hellish on them if you go over there.

This is our biggest problem: They aren't a threat to us, not really. If we go over there and get down, he's going to fuck over his own people and blame us, then we win, and now we have to take care of them. We don't know how many are completely brainwashed so we don't know who we can trust and that creates AMAZING tension when our troops are all around them.

And what's your end game? If we wipe out the military, rescue the public, now what? How do we save their crops, their economies, their very futures? We have a start game, but until we get a middle, and ESPECIALLY end game ready, we have to hold back.

And before anyone says "We didn't have and game for the Middle East" let me say that is EXACTLY my fucking point. We can't destroy a dictatorship, and liberate a people, without an end game that shows these people what freedom, happiness, and prosperity can be.
 

Szlia

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It's worse than in the middle east, because in Iraq for instance you had some sense of the religious and ethnic groups that were against or in support of Hussein's regime, giving a sense of what kind of political forces would face each other after the regime change. To my knowledge, there is none of that in North Korea so it's extraordinarily difficult to forecast how the people of a post-Kim North Korea will organize socially and politically.
 

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This is really the wrong image/caption pair.

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Military tensions on the Korean peninsula are at their highest level in many years [AFP]

It looks like Kim yong-sun is at a US airshow.

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Cybsled

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I don't think NK would present the same problems as the Middle East in terms of insurgents. Historically, the country was more unified then it was now, whereas in the Middle East it has pretty much always been a conflict. That's not to say there wouldn't be issues...I imagine a huge chunk of the country has Stockholm Syndrome and even if the Regime was toppled, I imagine many people would be skeptical as to whether it was real or not (or lasting). Like the previous metaphor mentioned, the residents of the house are fearful of the person who runs the house.

Now granted, Japan was in a similar situation in a manner of speaking after WW2. You had a huge cult of personality COMBINED with religion (The Emperor), but at least in that instance you had the Emperor tell people to surrender. It would be like Jesus appearing in the skies and telling the faithful to do something.
 

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Now granted, Japan was in a similar situation in a manner of speaking after WW2. You had a huge cult of personality COMBINED with religion (The Emperor), but at least in that instance you had the Emperor tell people to surrender. It would be like Jesus appearing in the skies and telling the faithful to do something.
It'd blow my mind if Kim Yong-sun did what Emperor Showa did. I'm not an expert on post-WW2 Japanese integration but if Kim Yong-sun willfully re-integrated his people with the world and turned NK into a modern state he'd be top 10 all time rulers.
 

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You mean if all of a sudden he stopped being crazy? Haha, yeah, that would be the best possible solution.
 

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It's worse than in the middle east, because in Iraq for instance you had some sense of the religious and ethnic groups that were against or in support of Hussein's regime, giving a sense of what kind of political forces would face each other after the regime change. To my knowledge, there is none of that in North Korea so it's extraordinarily difficult to forecast how the people of a post-Kim North Korea will organize socially and politically.
I think i would just be a mess economically trying to care for all those people, military wise it would be nothing like Iraq(no insurgency). Iraq had an insurgency because well, its was literally drawn up that way(go read up on dissolution of the ottoman empire) just so such a thing would happen without a strong dictator in charge.
 

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My god...if NK were liberated...think of their tiny dexterous hands, unwavering obedience and as of yet untapped natural video game playing ability. Legions of invincible Starcraft, Streetfighter and 5am mob stealing MMO players remain dormant as they instead tend dirt farms, their unimaginable Actions Per Minute squandered, their glory never realized.

Think Japanese porn is weird? NK would make the dick-nippliest pr0n look like Sesame Street, were they only given the freedom and tools to create art. For that alone they should be freed.

Couldn't some kind of underground railroad deal be made to sneak these potentially great folk out without that much actual combat? Hey we could call it the "Yellow Brick Road", hehe ;p
 

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My god...if NK were liberated...think of their tiny dexterous hands, unwavering obedience and as of yet untapped natural video game playing ability. Legions of invincible Starcraft, Streetfighter and 5am mob stealing MMO players remain dormant as they instead tend dirt farms, their unimaginable Actions Per Minute squandered, their glory never realized.

Think Japanese porn is weird? NK would make the dick-nippliest pr0n look like Sesame Street, were they only given the freedom and tools to create art. For that alone they should be freed.

Couldn't some kind of underground railroad deal be made to sneak these potentially great folk out without that much actual combat? Hey we could call it the "Yellow Brick Road", hehe ;p
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