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Tripamang_sl said:
Nuke the DMZ zone, I'm not saying carpet bomb north korea with nukes and destroy all of it's cities. I'm advocating using nuclear weapons to the current threat they pose to south korea via their artillery positions with the best weapons possible for destroying hardened targets.
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And what happens to the guys on the other side of the DMZ, exactly?
 
Tuco

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Araysar_sl said:
I feel the same way, one bomber run with several hundred planes pouring napalm/cluster bombs over the portion of the DMZ next to Seoul and there will barely be a NK soldier left to operate one of those howitzers. Thats the #1 threat being neutralized in few hours.

Even though they have one of the largest standing armies numerically wise, lets not forget that they are operating 1950s military equipment for the most part. If you want to see how that worked for the last guy in modern times see Hussein, Saddam.





I read the same thing. Frankly I have a hard time believing that we cant root out a bunch of midgets operating 60 year old cannons.
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Sure we can. But at what monetary cost for the ordinance and what civilian cost to both NK and SK?

And what is our certainty that they won't start launching off nukes as a last resort?

And what will we do afterward with either a now hostile government or a population without a functional government?

Bottom line: striking NK first is a bad fucking idea. Dictatorships #1 goal is to stay in power, they are not suicidal.
 
Heylel

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North Korea doesn't scare me in the least, at least not directly. The human cost and fallout of a conflict on the Korean peninsula is pretty chilling, however. Whatever the littlest Kim is up to, it can't mean anything good for anyone.
 
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Big Phoenix_sl said:
NK would be able to fire off an initial salvo but counter battery radar means that each gun only fires once and then its destroyed by SK arty. Though you really have to question the state of their equipment, its easy to make something look functional but I wonder how many of their guns really work and if they even have the ammunition/manpower to utilize working guns.
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The north does not have the gas reserves to invade as well.
 
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Probably an extrapolation fromhttps://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/kn.html?
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Tarrant

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I'd say any info on them in reguards to that is sketchy at best. Who knows if they are refining any of their own as well and we all know they don't share much eith the public, I wouldn't doubt they have pretty large stockpiles.
 
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Tuco_sl said:
Sure we can. But at what monetary cost for the ordinance and what civilian cost to both NK and SK?
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Since when has the cost of ordnance has ever deterred us from lobbing them? We're using $100,000 missiles to blow up $10 shacks in A-stan every day for the past decade.

And what is our certainty that they won't start launching off nukes as a last resort?
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I dont think they have the capability. They've done only what, 3 tests so far? I bet they were all Trinity-style tests, meaning a large tower/scaffolding to which a large bomb device was attached then detonated. I dont think they even have a bomb small enough to realistically fit on a plane and have detonate as an airburst when dropped, let alone one small enough to be used as a missile warhead.

And what will we do afterward with either a now hostile government or a population without a functional government?

Bottom line: striking NK first is a bad fucking idea. Dictatorships #1 goal is to stay in power, they are not suicidal.
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I dunno. Same thing we did with Japan, Germany, Soviet Union, etc. I'm pretty much always against US foreign intervention because in 99% of cases its merely extension of American imperialist geopolitik but toppling North Korea is something I could really get behind though. They have a real world Holocaust going on there for the past 20 years and we as a world do nothing but watch. It's reprehensible.
 
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This is a good read for an analysis of NK's offensive capabilities.

http://nautilus.org/napsnet/napsnet-...c-and-reality/

tl;dr NK cant turn Seoul into a "Sea of Fire" without going full nuclear/bio/chem. Artillery gets degraded at 1% an hour. SK fighters kill 270 targets per sortie (more with US planes). Even if NK is starts up a ground war they have 3 valleys to attack Seoul through which narrow to 1km at certain points. Assuming they achieve victory on the ground, they still have 60 days max to reach Busan and conquer the peninsula before they totally run out of fuel. Also, they have not practiced the large scale maneuvers and logistics to pull off such a feat in over 50 years. Guess what nation is super experienced at moving large amounts of men and material anywhere in the world quickly.
 
fanaskin

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Karloff_sl said:
WTF do you even have a clue
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right I said "for a long peroid of time" 1945-2004 I believe qualifies as a "long period of time". You bricked your slam dunk.

I read that in the cia world fact book 10 years ago, but nice to know it was "alex jones"
 
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