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Frothing at the mouth over video cards to play vidya games is manchild behavior. Are you a scalpphobe?.. Just have patience.

Here is a visual depiction of a manchild when he can't get video card to play child video games after a Scalpchad uses alpha male scalp skills to net multiple video cards within .8 seconds of online drop resulting in oos for beta manchildren.
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Here is a depiction of the scalper, offers nothing to society and only lives to insert himself as a middle man in transactions and skim off the top.

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Tuco

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Good point Tuco, never in the history of man have people gone to auctions to buy items they then re-sell for more at a later date. The prices definitely have nothing to do with high demand and low supply. Nope. It's because we aren't auctioning!
A public auction for thousands or millions of similar, new units is very different from dudes going to police civil forfeiture auctions, buying some random cars, having them professionally detailed and selling them to people.
 
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Tuco

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Then they just control the supply and build anticipation for a product that is seemingly always scarce in order to get high profit margins..
Yep.

Better than what we have. At least the people getting the $$$ actually contribute to the tech.
 
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Khane

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A public auction for thousands or millions of similar, new units is very different from dudes going to police civil forfeiture auctions, buying some random cars, having them professionally detailed and selling them to people.

Ahh yes, an auction with thousands (or even millions!) of units to be sold! Surely humans would be able to sit through such an amount of auction! Bots definitely would not take part for scalpers!
 

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Ahh yes, an auction with thousands (or even millions!) of units to be sold! Surely humans would be able to sit through such an amount of auction! Bots definitely would not take part for scalpers!
Work through the process: If NVIDIA auctions graphics cards at regular intervals or Apple auctions iphones or Nike auctions shoes, who exactly is going to supply the market for another auction with the goods at higher prices?
 

Khane

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Work through the process: If NVIDIA auctions graphics cards at regular intervals or Apple auctions iphones or Nike auctions shoes, who exactly is going to supply the market for another auction with the goods at higher prices?

Humans are impatient Tuco, if someone wants the item and its available on eBay but no "official" auctions are happening (and the auctions are swarmed by bots) there will always be people willing to pay higher prices for immediate gratification. Your auction idea does not solve this. You're missing the point of the problem. Not enough supply. Auctions would have the same issues as the current online marketplaces do. It also doesn't solve the price gouging problem. In fact it would make it worse.
 
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Demand for GPU's probably jumped even more with Cyberpunk's release and people realize just how demanding it is.
 
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Humans are impatient Tuco, if someone wants the item and its available on eBay but no "official" auctions are happening (and the auctions are swarmed by bots) there will always be people willing to pay higher prices for immediate gratification. Your auction idea does not solve this. You're missing the point of the problem. Not enough supply. Auctions would have the same issues as the current online marketplaces do. It also doesn't solve the price gouging problem. In fact it would make it worse.
What are you even arguing here?
He’s just saying the companies themselves should do the auctioning instead of scalpers buying them at MSRP and auctioning them. The overpriced amount of money is going to some useless middleman instead of the company that supplied this high demand products.

The Tuco Tuco way the company gets high dollar at the beginning, and cuts out the scalpers. People would transfer their hate to the companies instead of the scalpers though, as we saw with MSI last month when they got caught doing it.
 
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Khane

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What are you even arguing here?
He’s just saying the companies themselves should do the auctioning instead of scalpers buying them at MSRP and auctioning them. The overpriced amount of money is going to some useless middleman instead of the company that supplied this high demand products.

The Tuco Tuco way the company gets high dollar at the beginning, and cuts out the scalpers. People would transfer their hate to the companies instead of the scalpers though, as we saw with MSI last month when they got caught doing it.

I'm surprised it's hard for people to understand that scalpers will go to those auctions and buy to resell. It doesn't solve the issue in the slightest.
 
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LachiusTZ

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What are you even arguing here?
He’s just saying the companies themselves should do the auctioning instead of scalpers buying them at MSRP and auctioning them. The overpriced amount of money is going to some useless middleman instead of the company that supplied this high demand products.

The Tuco Tuco way the company gets high dollar at the beginning, and cuts out the scalpers. People would transfer their hate to the companies instead of the scalpers though, as we saw with MSI last month when they got caught doing it.

He is a moron
 

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I'm surprised it's hard for people to understand that scalpers will go to those auctions and buy to resell. It doesn't solve the issue in the slightest.
Wouldn't gamers also be bidding against the scalpers, as well?

If they're competitively bidding, and gamers bid up to the limit they're willing to spend, I'd think either the scalpers go higher and are then stuck with product they can't resell because they bid too high, or gamers bid higher than the scalpers and the scalpers just lose.
 
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Kriptini

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The only way to stop scalping is to stop buying from scalpers. Sure they can just buy stock and return it if they can't sell it, but if enough of that goes on they'll stop wasting their time.

I'd think either the scalpers go higher and are then stuck with product they can't resell because they bid too high

Problem with this is that they can just return the product.
 

LachiusTZ

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The only way to stop scalping is to stop buying from scalpers. Sure they can just buy stock and return it if they can't sell it, but if enough of that goes on they'll stop wasting their time.



Problem with this is that they can just return the product.

Have you been to a lot of auctions with a return policy?
 

Khane

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Wouldn't gamers also be bidding against the scalpers, as well?

If they're competitively bidding, and gamers bid up to the limit they're willing to spend, I'd think either the scalpers go higher and are then stuck with product they can't resell because they bid too high, or gamers bid higher than the scalpers and the scalpers just lose.

Until stock is gone and people are waiting for more "official auctions" at which point supply is 0 and demand is still there. Creating a market for the scalpers to capitalize on with what they bought at official auction. And as Kriptini said, they could just return it if they were wrong about what people were willing to spend.
 
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All sales final, must auction in person, limit one per customer. Checkmate scalpers.
 
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