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I haven't had them, but Main Gear and Star Forge review really well by people who know what they are talking about.

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Navigator Elite: AMD X3D cpu, AMD 7900 XT GPU. $2400

or Intel and new Nvidia 5080: Voyager III Pro $3500.
 
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My brother bought a starforge and the build quality was really good, with good parts etc. It was about $500 more than if he'd built it himself, but comes with a warranty and uses nice parts.

If you're fine with buying a pc with a penis logo, I'd recommend.
 
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Pretty much just what I'm thinking. At 43 now and the last computer I built was 8 years ago. Today, I don't have that time or mental energy to spare and I'm OK having someone else hand me a turn-key solution. And maybe I'm an outlier, but I feel like the rate of advancement and change keeps picking up which makes it even harder to stay up to date on everything.

At least I'll never get a Mac and try to game with it.
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Even doing a "custom build" with Microcenter and having them do all the work was obnoxious. Getting sent home with boot errors and other stupid shit.

In 10 years from now I'm just going with a junk prebuilt as I can't be bothered with all the hours and headache that goes along with even passing the build off to someone else and the simplicity of picking parts in the store that's building it.

One good thing I'll say about Microcenter is their protection plan is worth it. I had a 5950x CPU fail last year and they diagnosed it as CPU failure fairly fast without trying to pretend it's not CPU failure and focusing on other diagnostics (with a little help from me steering them toward CPU failure as the conclusion after letting them take a whack at it). 0 cost to me to replace the CPU. Had my rig back within just 2-3 days.

Buying a junk prebuilt means no fast hardware failure repairs for free but I'll deal with it.
 
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Burren said:
This is all pretty frustrating for someone who is now old and ignorant of what a good card, chip, MB, and ram combo are, for proper value. Been out of this game so long it just makes me want to buy something pre-made rather than build and just hope it’s decent.
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I don't regret building mine at all. I guess the best thing to say about building your own is that computer advances just don't happen nearly as fast as they used to. If you build a top notch computer now it'll be really good in 5 years, and still probably quite serviceable in 10. As people have pointed out in this 5090 generation of video cards, computers aren't advancing anywhere near as fast as they used to.

9800x3d is pretty much the clear best cpu and about 500$. You can easily get it for a good price if you bundle a good mobo on newegg. From there slap 32gb of ram in and you're set on the cpu/mobo/ram combo.

Video cards are definitely the bottleneck. Trying to buy one is aids.
 
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I don't regret building mine at all. I guess the best thing to say about building your own is that computer advances just don't happen nearly as fast as they used to. If you build a top notch computer now it'll be really good in 5 years, and still probably quite serviceable in 10. As people have pointed out in this 5090 generation of video cards, computers aren't advancing anywhere near as fast as they used to.

9800x3d is pretty much the clear best cpu and about 500$. You can easily get it for a good price if you bundle a good mobo on newegg. From there slap 32gb of ram in and you're set on the cpu/mobo/ram combo.

Video cards are definitely the bottleneck. Trying to buy one is aids.
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To be honest I've stopped telling people to build their own PCs in recent years. Stock is too fucking gay on everything to make it enjoyable.

I'll still build mine. But I can no longer recommend it
 
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Burren

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Springbok said:
My brother bought a starforge and the build quality was really good, with good parts etc. It was about $500 more than if he'd built it himself, but comes with a warranty and uses nice parts.

If you're fine with buying a pc with a penis logo, I'd recommend.
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Honestly, that's preferable....
 
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Burren

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Fucker said:
I haven't had them, but Main Gear and Star Forge review really well by people who know what they are talking about.

starforgesystems.com

Starforge Systems | Custom Gaming PCs

The best PCs in the Universe. It's a bold claim. But Starforge Systems features bespoke products built, shipped and supported by industry experts. Every gaming pc is benchmarked and quality controlled to ensure your PC lives up to our high standards. Which begs just one question: Are you ready...
starforgesystems.com starforgesystems.com

Navigator Elite: AMD X3D cpu, AMD 7900 XT GPU. $2400

or Intel and new Nvidia 5080: Voyager III Pro $3500.
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Almost everything on their website is sold out.
 
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Brikker

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I bought a Starforge Navigator Elite (amd cpu and amd gpu) in September. No regrets. Building PC's is fun but at my age/income level I'd much rather pay a bit more for a high quality build.
 
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Kirun

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Brikker said:
I bought a Starforge Navigator Elite (amd cpu and amd gpu) in September. No regrets. Building PC's is fun but at my age/income level I'd much rather pay a bit more for a high quality build.
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That's the other thing.

I just don't have the time/patience required to make my build as "clean" as a lot of the prebuilt shit. Mine is clean...enough. But I possess nowhere near the levels of autism required for how pristine a lot of them look.
 
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That's the other thing.

I just don't have the time/patience required to make my build as "clean" as a lot of the prebuilt shit. Mine is clean...enough. But I possess nowhere near the levels of autism required for how pristine a lot of them look.
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I honestly don't care how clean my build looks. I mean I get it reasonable and organized so I don't have to fight cables doing anything. What I do care a lot about how quiet it is. I go out of my way to add sound dampners and extra quiet fans. I also don't like rbg bullshit, so I slap a solid side on mine. I also like to understand how my computer works, so that basic setup part is fun to me.

That said, there's some real good pre-built pcs and it certainly is a very reasonable course for people here to take, as I assume a lot of the people here are six figures or close to it.
 
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I am in my 40s and have built my last 4 PCs and 3 others for family. Didn't realize people have so many issues with them. Maybe I am lucky, but yet to have issues with boot/windows or doa parts. And PC building is easier then ever, since its all plug and play at this point and minimal cabling. But I also dont do water cooling, OCing anything or deal with any RBG.

I see myself doing it until I just cant physically or mentally. It's relaxing and gives you knowledge about your own equipment.

Now if I could only get the same attitude when it comes to my Vehicle. Which I find annoying to do anything and would rather just pay someone to do it or me.
 
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Cinge said:
I am in my 40s and have built my last 4 PCs and 3 others for family. Didn't realize people have so many issues with them. Maybe I am lucky, but yet to have issues with boot/windows or doa parts. And PC building is easier then ever, since its all plug and play at this point and minimal cabling. But I also dont do water cooling, OCing anything or deal with any RBG.

I see myself doing it until I just cant physically or mentally. It's relaxing and gives you knowledge about your own equipment.

Now if I could only get the same attitude when it comes to my Vehicle. Which I find annoying to do anything and would rather just pay someone to do it or me.
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I'd still build mine if the GPUs weren't artifically scarce. I gave up during the bitcoin mining peak.

I'm 100x more patient putting together electronics than I am shopping.
 
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I wager 9/10 builders who never had issues are going to curse the day they have to start building Win11 machines.
 
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As somebody who did the research and built their own PC in 2021 at the height of the GPU mining craze, I'm 100% buying premades from now on.

I realize I'm "wasting" money, but I'm willing to pay a $500-700 dollar markup just to not have to fuck with that shit ever again. I've officially entered my Murtaugh phase and I'm "too old for this shit".

I was never that into building PCs even in my teens and 20s, I'm definitely fucking done with it at 40.
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I still enjoy building PC's, just not as much and I'm way past 40.
 
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