Overwatch

Hex_sl said:

Probably going to see some friend request SPAM just realized I haven't added like 70% of the list of people on the front page of this thread Wish you could put notes on your invites, gotten a few requests from people on here that aren't on the list so i'm kinda like "Who is this?"

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Yeah, I wish I could put my friends in "a group" on the friends list. It would help me know where everyone on my list is from.

Ick, no thanks to Stealth.

Valderen_sl said:

A stealth hero next? A few voice lines were data mined on the PTR suggesting that this might be the case.

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I feel if they do release a champion with stealth, sorta basing it off of what torb says too. I think she/he will probably only stealth at a standstill, like night elves. Plays like genji/tracer as a flanker/disruption, and moves in and out of combat to find safe locations to sit stealth. Will be able to cap/defend objectives, forcing your team to have to spam in every conceivable location to find. In the end though, she might be fun to play but be a torb/symm like gimmick.

Support player - love Lucio and the role. But can adapt to whatever.

Competitive focus and game for teams even in QP.

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Pickup groups in competitive are such a mixed bag - once you dip under 49 it can dangerously turn into a death spiral of shit that can't be carried by support.

Didn't Blizzard say they weren't going to add a Champ with stealth because it's only fun for the stealther?

There is a difference between stealth and invis. I doubt they will go the full TF2 spy route, but it wouldn't surprise me if they have a shadowmeld type ability. Sombra means Shadow, so I am guessing she will have some sort of "melt into the shadows" ability that lets her hide. There already are a bunch of flanking heroes that are hard to hit and destroy teams without counters (Tracer, Reaper, Genji) and lots of heroes have AOE abilities, so I don't see the harm in some type of shadowmeld ambush hero.

Even then, using HotS as an example, they do really well with stealth characters. I'm gonna assume that the character will actually be a low damage character, more scouting/traps since we don't really have much of the sort.

If they do go for a dps'y character, she'll probably have only a shadowmeld rather than a full blown walking stealth. I wouldn't be surprised if they also gave her a leap.

Just had the worst roadhog hook hanzo arrow tree trunk death Ive ever seen. Was on the top ridge of the final point of attacking hanamura, roadhog hooks me below without any LOS of me, hanzo arrow kills me before hook registers above, again with absolutely no LOS. On my screen, I get dragged to the roadhog and die. On the replay, hanzo kills me with a random arrow that he doesn't even see my hitbox at all. I dont stream/record but I really wish I had that. Most BS thing Ive experienced so far.

I am 100% against stealth in the game, and I really really hope its just some sort of smoke projectile or something. Stealth has ruined every single game its been. Gauze, do you remember how anti-fun nova was for so long? She's still really anti-fun actually, and zeratul has been an absolute nightmare to balance with extensive bans in the past. Its a terrible mechanic and has no place shitting up games. It was the same in dirty bomb, they added somewhat of a stealth class (he could still be seen just not very well). Blast to play (at the start), absolute cancer to play against when even somewhat strong, then nerfed into being completely useless after about a month of people saying how bullshit and unfun it was. So the solution was to just make him terrible so no-one would play him any more. Its just an old mechanic that needs done away with completely.

Honestly the game feels borderline to me at the minute with the ultra fast ultimates, terrible hitboxes (though maybe this will be better after patch), random projectiles just chunking away at everyones health. If zen goes live the way he is he'll be in every game and the time to kill with discord will be even lower. Adding a stealth class into the game I think would be the final straw for me.

You don't like moving stealth. There is a big difference between Riki and Clinkz vs. Templar Assassin in DOTA. Templar Assassin can only shadowmeld and remain still, so it makes it easy to kill her if you AOE the spot where she hid. Overwatch has a fuckton of AOE attacks and unlike a DOTA/HOTS/LOL, your attack abilities don't require a click-to-attack, so if you know where the person hid, it isn't hard to attack them.

Vanilla spy wasn't that amazing in TF2 and he got shit on by most classes. Pyro poofing fire basically made him useless.

I hope they dont add an invis/stealth. More than anything its just not fun to play against in any game.

I've always assumed Sombra was either stealth or someone who projected darkness as a counter to snipers and sharpshooters. I can only imagine how frustrating it would be to have the enemy plant a sphere of darkness on the payload.

I'd love to see a hero like Pride from FMA. Probably too much to ask for though.

If they add stealth they've run out of idea's and it's pretty early in the cycle to pull that card.