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Ravishing

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Hog hooks really are infuriating. I don't understand how it's ok, especially with the unavoidable 1-shot against most squishies afterwards. He really shouldn't be able to hook a McCree or Soldier and 1-shot them, the hook is enough of a disrupter to remove them from a fight for a couple seconds.
 
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Amzin

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I'll take Roadhog hooks over a decent enemy Widow any day. Sniper is harder to avoid, harder to predict, and has less options to counter play.
 
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Tenks

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Hog hooks really are infuriating. I don't understand how it's ok, especially with the unavoidable 1-shot against most squishies afterwards. He really shouldn't be able to hook a McCree or Soldier and 1-shot them, the hook is enough of a disrupter to remove them from a fight for a couple seconds.

Yeah the design feels wonky to me as well. I think possible a compromise would be allow heroes to use abilities while hooked. So like the McCree could time his flashbang to stun Hog before Hog could LMB/melee him to death. That may be an excessive nerf to Hog though since he isn't really in a horrid spot balance wise. He is a noob shredder though since he really punishes being out of position and since most games people are running around like chickens with their heads cut off he really shines at lower MMRs and is still effective at higher MMRs but feels less cheap.
 

Ravishing

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I don't watch much competitive but seems like he's used at all levels cause if you get a hook it's immediately a 6v5. Idk though
 

ToeMissile

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The hook reach seems a bit much sometimes , maybe reduce it a little. Or add a little bit of drop?
 

Xevy

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I've been playing Roadhog lately and he's pretty powerful if you can land hooks on the right people. HOWEVER, he is easily countered by a Zen/Ana team up. Discord + grenade = dead hog. Zen himself can discord and headshot a hog to death pretty quickly. I had a team behind a reinhardt shield (which no one but me wanted to try and break) just nonstop discord/sleep/grenade/nuke me down instantly. I'm talking 600hp gone in less than 1 second. Just really brutal.

That said if you're on KOTH or something and you're guarding against flankers he's pretty great. Tracer? Dead. Reaper? Probably dead. Pharah? Wait for her juice to run low ... and dead.
 

Kharzette

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I've had 3000+ funnymoney for a month or so, been trying to decide if I want a gold gun or maybe wait for them to offer something else. It would be hard to decide between Phara, Ana, or Mei.
 

Kharzette

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A day in the life:

Troll Symmetra and disconnect in one match, really terrible team in another. Notice how bad the other team is even though they beat us. I don't think any of them are even playing with sound on.

Silver life
 

Araxen

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Roadhog is totally fine Kappa


In a zero lag environment that doesn't happen but with a character with "hooks" on the Internet it will be forever a fact of life on the US Internet. As a person who plays Roadhogg a lot that isn't the norm. 20 years ago FPS gameplay was said to never happen because the Internet was too slow. If you nerf his hook what else does he have besides powering up the opposing teams Ultimate's? They already nerfed the hitbox once and if you nerf it anymore it becomes unusable due to lag. I feel Blizz has a good grip on hitboxes and how they want them balanced.
 

slippery

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In a zero lag environment that doesn't happen but with a character with "hooks" on the Internet it will be forever a fact of life on the US Internet. As a person who plays Roadhogg a lot that isn't the norm. 20 years ago FPS gameplay was said to never happen because the Internet was too slow. If you nerf his hook what else does he have besides powering up the opposing teams Ultimate's? They already nerfed the hitbox once and if you nerf it anymore it becomes unusable due to lag. I feel Blizz has a good grip on hitboxes and how they want them balanced.

The problem is the vertical range on the hitbox that enables shit like this
 

Cybsled

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Zarya can counter hog hooks as well. Even if someone gets hooked, you have enough time to toss a bubble on them so the shotgun blast doesn't hurt them.
 

Adebisi

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I had my first really good Widow game with 20 elims. Had some good twitchy shots even.

My Tracer game is improving as well. It's amazing how much you can fuck up a team's push just by dinging them in the backs and running away.