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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
gauze
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Dandain
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Blizzard has shown pretty handily that one of two things are true. Either, they give zero fucks about esports, other than an extremely narrow region where it makes them money while they do something else. (Blizzcon) Or, they are wholly incompetent at esports no matter how they might try.
spronk
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did seagull stop streaming or something? haven't seen him on streaming in weeks it feels like, kinda weird for a dude who was regularly pulling 20k viewers just kinda stopping. even if its for competitive stuff, you'd think the $$ coming from streaming would dwarf any sort of prize you win
gauze
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Really, I think it would have been better if they called it the Blizzard's All-Star World Cup, instead of a World Cup. Like League, they have all-star games where they pick apart teams for their 'best' players for each region, and net them against each other for a regional championship. I think they're goaling for the -olympic- idea, rather than having original team houses appear. I mean, majority of the US teams are comprised of EU/CA players. Who knows, it might be fun to watch, but it seems Sweden and Korea will probably be the strongest region. It's just a community effort, and nothing really all that big other than to entertain and get peoples name out there.
I really like the idea, because outside of this moment, we won't see this ever.. will people be entertained by it, idk?
I also have the frequent debate with my friend about EnvyUs, he swears up and down that they're an American team.. I will refuse that argument time and time again. Esp when the team is only comprised of one American, and 5 EU players. I don't give a fuck if they're running their house out of NA, the majority is EU. It's the same when LMQ was in League, thats a 100% chinese team.. thats playing in NA.
All in all, I don't think Blizzard has the ability to run a major league circuit.. at least successfully. They're better off trying to partner with other divisions like ESL, Faceit, Dreamhack, IEM, or E-League.
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Kharzette
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Seagull has been in China / Korea for awhile, and now at BlizzCon
Nothing but bad teams for me for about 30 games straight. Dropped to 1800 again. My block list is like 100 long. Nonstop bad composition, disconnects, trolls, leavers. I've tied a few games but had maybe 1 or 2 wins in the last couple nights? It seems as streaky as EQ's old rng. Either you get great teams all night or it has you flagged for all the terribads.
Did see a chinese guy everyone accused of aimbotting, only he was playing Torb. He did kill me a few times from super far but I wasn't convinced, and seems like a botter would play something that isn't a dropping projectile.
Nothing but bad teams for me for about 30 games straight. Dropped to 1800 again. My block list is like 100 long. Nonstop bad composition, disconnects, trolls, leavers. I've tied a few games but had maybe 1 or 2 wins in the last couple nights? It seems as streaky as EQ's old rng. Either you get great teams all night or it has you flagged for all the terribads.
Did see a chinese guy everyone accused of aimbotting, only he was playing Torb. He did kill me a few times from super far but I wasn't convinced, and seems like a botter would play something that isn't a dropping projectile.
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today, a little bit ago. it was 2v2 to capture the point. Rein my team mate and me Zenyatta. rein was about to die, so i ulimate. What does rein do? Just holds his fucking shield up. lol All he had to do was swing 2 times and we win the point. Im like why didnt you fucking swing your hammer. They couldnt do anything to you. People are just stupid. I always have to play fucking Healer or a tank because everyone wants mei/junkrat or an offensive character.
Big Phoenix
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Well I don't think they'd need to run a major league, even an invitational tournament would probably be better imo.
I mean all stars is one thing but when you split it by countries, it becomes a mess for a bunch of countries. Sure korea, china and to an extent USA can field full teams of good players, because they tend to often run teams with only their own nationality anyway(although USA teams often have canadians and europeans mixed in so even though aren't that common in most games I watch) but once you start trying to get teams from one country of europe only, it gets quite meh and you end up inviting a lot of random people. Like I don't watch Overwatch enough to really know every player and shit but is there really 6 french, 6 german, 6 UK etc players that are worth shit? I'm sure there's a couple of each that play in big teams, and swedes/danes tend to have fairly strong players overall in most online games so they can field a full team, but otherwise it feels meh. This isn't really like the Olympics where the US sends people in every discipline and shit but most of the smaller european countries tend to aim only at certain disciplines or have no expectations to win some of the shit and focus more on others.
Also I'd argue the game's competitive scene isn't solid enough to do an All stars match and expect a whole lot either. The fact that most asian and western teams haven't played against each other to figure out who's actually stronger or if they're on equal footing or whatever makes it even more meh.
Anyway end of rant, it just sounds like a waste of time compared to just inviting the top 8/16 teams and having a real international tournament. Might not be fair to some of the lesser known pros who wouldn't get invited, but would be a lot more interesting to watch, probably. Not even sure we can watch that though as I didn't watch the video till the end, do you need a blizzcon ticket to watch this shit or are they not retarded and you can just watch for free?
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This World Cup idea seems really bad.
Regarding ranked: 2nd Friday in a row I nosedived my rank, no idea what happens but I start laughing hysterically when it's been 5 hours and all straight losses. Went from 2800 to 2100 last Friday.. am back to 2400. Common strategy is to put the game down after 2-3 losses but when it's Friday night and you finally got time to play, you just play damnit!
In the end it doesn't really matter to me, I got level 200 so soaking up the sweet sweet loot boxes right now, especially before they nerf it.
Maybe I'll go back to League on Fridays to save my OW ranking for now on
Regarding ranked: 2nd Friday in a row I nosedived my rank, no idea what happens but I start laughing hysterically when it's been 5 hours and all straight losses. Went from 2800 to 2100 last Friday.. am back to 2400. Common strategy is to put the game down after 2-3 losses but when it's Friday night and you finally got time to play, you just play damnit!
In the end it doesn't really matter to me, I got level 200 so soaking up the sweet sweet loot boxes right now, especially before they nerf it.
Maybe I'll go back to League on Fridays to save my OW ranking for now on
Kharzette
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Totally opposite for me haha, fridays seem great, weeknights terrible. It does seem really consistent though per session, maybe restarting would help. In EQ I used to think that if you jump and sense heading before looting you could break a bad streak
I am getting close to 300, so maybe this weekend I'll crack a bunch of boxes. About the only thing I don't have that I want is Ana's pumpkin noggin skin.
I am getting close to 300, so maybe this weekend I'll crack a bunch of boxes. About the only thing I don't have that I want is Ana's pumpkin noggin skin.
gauze
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I agree an international tournament, -might- have been better. Though...
I still think this idea is a good, if not entertaining idea. Most times, with these major league tournaments with pre-established teams.. its always the house with the better funding that takes lead, and generally wins or competes in the top brackets. Rare do you see a group of friends who got together, a ragtag team or so guys who came together compete at the same level, there just isn't the time/interest invested into it in comparison. Most times in situations like those, you play on a minor team only to be scouted by a major team. Sure, you won't have the finest grade of plays, and digestion of every single mechanic in the game. It will come down to more raw skill and talent than anything else.
Regardless, if we use league as an example. I think this plays more like Challenger-tier players w/ pro players. Most pro players in league will mention that there are players in the Challenger circuit who are way better than a pro player, they just dont' have the time, opportunity, or interest in play as a team. The benefit of this is, we might find someone extremely strong from a region we didn't expect. We might find ourselves in mold breaking meta's, instead of seeing beyblade in every other match. Though these are wild optimisms. Take Fallen's team from CSGO for example, formally Luminosity, now SK, no one expected Brazil to have a strong team, argubly some of the best players in the game right now. They've had strong teams in the past, like circa 2004-7? But the entirety of like 2010-2015 has been predominately EU. We might find some guy in Malaysia, or Argentina who is the same level of skill, or a phenomenal player we otherwise wouldn't know because most times countries tunnel their own country-ish. Koreans pick up other Korean's, Chinese pick up other Chinese, EU pick up EU, Americans pick up anyone they can cause we suck, and so forth.
Also it'll be fun watching teammates go at it. I haven't looked at all of em, but i'm sure Tviq from Rogue, will go against one or more of his teammates because its 4 Frenchies. Envyus will be all over the place w/ what, two swiss players, a spain player, german player, finnish, and Talespin for the US.
hopefully anything I said above makes sense, kinda just woke up pre-coffee and getting ready all in the same go. I'm optimistic that it'll be entertaining, that we won't be stuck w/ meta garbo of like beyblade 24/7, and hoping we will actually see other countries perform better than expected. Optimisim, yeaaaaaaah. There were some odd, 45 teams, now only what, 17? to the group stages. Some teams seem to have given their run for the money in their qualifers
I still think this idea is a good, if not entertaining idea. Most times, with these major league tournaments with pre-established teams.. its always the house with the better funding that takes lead, and generally wins or competes in the top brackets. Rare do you see a group of friends who got together, a ragtag team or so guys who came together compete at the same level, there just isn't the time/interest invested into it in comparison. Most times in situations like those, you play on a minor team only to be scouted by a major team. Sure, you won't have the finest grade of plays, and digestion of every single mechanic in the game. It will come down to more raw skill and talent than anything else.
Regardless, if we use league as an example. I think this plays more like Challenger-tier players w/ pro players. Most pro players in league will mention that there are players in the Challenger circuit who are way better than a pro player, they just dont' have the time, opportunity, or interest in play as a team. The benefit of this is, we might find someone extremely strong from a region we didn't expect. We might find ourselves in mold breaking meta's, instead of seeing beyblade in every other match. Though these are wild optimisms. Take Fallen's team from CSGO for example, formally Luminosity, now SK, no one expected Brazil to have a strong team, argubly some of the best players in the game right now. They've had strong teams in the past, like circa 2004-7? But the entirety of like 2010-2015 has been predominately EU. We might find some guy in Malaysia, or Argentina who is the same level of skill, or a phenomenal player we otherwise wouldn't know because most times countries tunnel their own country-ish. Koreans pick up other Korean's, Chinese pick up other Chinese, EU pick up EU, Americans pick up anyone they can cause we suck, and so forth.
Also it'll be fun watching teammates go at it. I haven't looked at all of em, but i'm sure Tviq from Rogue, will go against one or more of his teammates because its 4 Frenchies. Envyus will be all over the place w/ what, two swiss players, a spain player, german player, finnish, and Talespin for the US.
hopefully anything I said above makes sense, kinda just woke up pre-coffee and getting ready all in the same go. I'm optimistic that it'll be entertaining, that we won't be stuck w/ meta garbo of like beyblade 24/7, and hoping we will actually see other countries perform better than expected. Optimisim, yeaaaaaaah. There were some odd, 45 teams, now only what, 17? to the group stages. Some teams seem to have given their run for the money in their qualifers
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"Original McCree Concept"
That was a skin theorized to be coming out for halloween because that's what McCree is seen wearing in the Junkenstein digital comic. Dude even says he made it based on the comic.
Edit: I'm dumb. He's referencing the original artist of the concept art. I thought he was claiming it as an original concept of the character.
That was a skin theorized to be coming out for halloween because that's what McCree is seen wearing in the Junkenstein digital comic. Dude even says he made it based on the comic.
Edit: I'm dumb. He's referencing the original artist of the concept art. I thought he was claiming it as an original concept of the character.
i have seen a ton of bullshit hooks but it's not really any more frustrating than hanzo headshots.
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World size hitboxes combined with subpar netcode is just fine.
Rein's charge is worse imo. Love getting pinned when im around the corner but my hitbox isnt.