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Chris

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You could ask, "How are you still fucking up X?" and put like 30 things there. My base is shit (literally I guess) and I love it.

I want to go exterminatus on germs in my base. Part of that is trying out the new options I've researched like the urinals and showers. And also learning what to do with chlorine and bleach stone... maybe I'll bother with that before I go to the next asteroid.
Didn't even know there were urinals!

Just make more toilets and sinks, jesus christ. Set the sinks to only wash on way out.

You can split your dupes into shifts so they are there at different times.

You can pipe the shitty water into liquid reservoirs, have 3+ and fill the room completely with chlorine (can use pumps or bleach stones), it kills the germs. The water needs to be in there a while for it to work, so fill the tanks before turning on the next step. Then you run it into the filter thing that turns polluted water into regular water.
 

sakkath

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It sounds like you restart too easily. Stressed dupes is not game breaking, just take action to reduce their stress and carry on.
On broken buildings, it's often better to deconstruct and rebuild rather than repair. Repairing deletes resources to fix broken buildings. Deconstructing returns all of the materials used to build it so you lose nothing.
Also if the building is overheating and taking damage then if you repair it it will still be overheating and will break immediately.

Buildings (which generate heat) in space will overheat because they have nothing to exchange heat with. You either need to use conductive panels to cool them, or put a liquid or gas on them to exchange heat with. In space this will also mean needing to use a background building such as dry wall to stop the space exposure from deleting the fluid.

There is no radiant energy loss in ONI so being in space does not cool things the way it would in real life. The only way to cool something down in ONI is to either exchange heat with something that is cooler, or use the building that actually deletes heat (steam turbine).

In the long term in ONI this typically means using an aquatuner to move heat into a pool of water, then delete the heat using a steam turbine.
There are many short term ways of solving overheating in a specific place. One I like to use is building tempshift plates out of ice.
 
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sakkath

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My main issue is starting industry. The SPOM is only enough for basic machines, not sure what to do for power otherwise. Maybe a critter farm for coal and vent the CO2 to space?

No sign of oil for plastic, I guess I need to dig down, but even with masks there's usually gunk down there to stress my guys out. I guess they need better clothing?
If power is your issue then yes coal, although it depends on what map you're playing on. Assuming you're playing on the beginner planet terra there should be plenty of coal to keep you going for quite a while and then hatches which are a longer term source of coal. Make sure you link the coal generators to a smart battery so they only run when you actually need power and don't burn all of your coal unnecessarily. If CO2 is an issue then yes vent it to space or use a scrubber.

Yes you need to dig down for oil (assuming terra). Again stress shouldn't be a big issue. The main issue down there is heat, enough to burn your dupes if they're down there for too long. You can use atmo suits to solve that issue.
 
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Gavinmad

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Learn how to ranch hatches and dreckos. It will make progressing into mid-game so much easier.

Also you can use maps not included to look for a seed that has the geysers you want in the places you want. i.e. having an easily accessible cool slush geyser makes early cooling much easier, cool steam geyser/water vent if you just want fresh water and dont care that its hot, etc. On a much earlier build I once found a seed with cool slush nearby to the right and three natgas geysers all clustered nearby to the left.
 
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Read up on specific heat capacity. Its a massive deal. It basically means water is the best conventional heat mover and the whole base has to use that in harmony or you will get broken things then steam
 
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Chris

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Managed to not fuck up with a stupid project. Got some coal generators and textile plant farm I couldn't fit in.

Need to put in oxygen masks and dig down?
 

sakkath

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Or just dig down, you don't really need masks unless your dupes are working for extended periods in an unbreatheable atmosphere.
I personally rarely use masks, I go straight to atmo suits. My most common use case for masks is for an astronomer using a telescope to scout nearby planets when I don't have a thimble reed source on my starter planets. A few of the starting asteroids have this issue.
 

Gavinmad

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If you build a proper drecko ranch you don't have to bother with the oil biome until you need the enormous amount of power it provides.
 

Chris

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If you build a proper drecko ranch you don't have to bother with the oil biome until you need the enormous amount of power it provides.
Done! Hesitated because I assumed it was complicated and the online guides have all the insane automation.

No, I just turned my basic horizontal 24x4 ranch into a vertical 8x12 ranch and it's working nicely and I have plastic.

I think I need steel now before I can start making some proper industry... but I need industry for steel? Also got down to the oil layer.

Think CO2 and gas pressure buildup is my next problem, kinda want to vent the CO2 into space unless there's a better use for it?
 

Gavinmad

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Done! Hesitated because I assumed it was complicated and the online guides have all the insane automation.

No, I just turned my basic horizontal 24x4 ranch into a vertical 8x12 ranch and it's working nicely and I have plastic.

I think I need steel now before I can start making some proper industry... but I need industry for steel? Also got down to the oil layer.

Think CO2 and gas pressure buildup is my next problem, kinda want to vent the CO2 into space unless there's a better use for it?
The only thing to really do with significant quantities of co2 in the base game is farm mushrooms and ranch slicksters. Slicksters are one of the most annoying critters to ranch (if not the most annoying) and oil is already a technically infinite resource anyway. So yes, venting it into space is a pretty common solution.

Refining steel makes a LOT of heat so don't make too much until you've built an aquatuner cooling loop similar to what Tuco posted on the previous page unless you have a really safe place to dump all the heat (i.e. a nearby cool slush geyser).
 
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sakkath

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Slicksters are one of the most annoying critters to ranch (if not the most annoying)
Try ranching pufts!

But yeah some easy early ways to use the metal refinery
best: use water from a slush geyser as coolant and put it back into the cold pool. This will slowly warm up the pool of water but if it's a slush geyser then you can get quite a lot of steel and refined metal out of it before it starts to become an issue.
second best: Use any water as coolant and output it into a frozen biome. This will slowly warm up and melt the frozen biome which probably doesn't matter.
if desperate: Use any water you've got and output it somewhere out of the way. Just use the refinery enough to get 1200kg of steel, use the rock crusher to get the refined metal you need, use dreckos or oil to get 200kg of plastic and build a proper cooling loop.
 

Gavinmad

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Try ranching pufts!
lol, once upon a time you couldn't manufacture oxylite or bleachstone so puft ranching was the only renewable source of it. Not that there was any use for oxylite or bleachstone back then, and there still really isn't a need for bleachstone now.
 

sakkath

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Bleachstone is used for geotuning now but that's relatively endgame stuff. Bleachstone hopper is way more viable than squeaky pufts though.