Paleo 101: How and why you should eat like a Caveman

BrutulTM · Jan 21, 2013

Araysar_sl said:
ive been eating a paleo-like diet for close to a year now and i just feel normal. no boosts in energy or anything. if anything i get really sleepy around 2 pm every day

maybe im just old.

It's just the placebo effect anyway. Nobody remembers how much "energy" they had a year ago. People who say shit like this are just excited about their new diet so they say stupid things like "I have a ton more energy now!". No matter what the diet is, if the people selling it tell you it will give you more energy, and you really buy into their sales pitch, you're going to think you have more energy afterwards because it's not a measurable effect one way or the other.

supertouch_sl · Jan 21, 2013

well, if you have fatigue as a result of a metabolic disorder or if you feel like shit due to gluten intolerance, normalizing your system would feel like quite a boost

arkktheseaotter_sl · Jan 21, 2013

supertouch_sl said:
well, if you have fatigue as a result of a metabolic disorder or if you feel like shit due to gluten intolerance, normalizing your system would feel like quite a boost

But the way Paleo people sell the gluten sensitivity shit they'd like you to believe that if you cut out gluten you are going to look feel and perform like Patrick Willis.

Tuco · Jan 21, 2013

Gluten sensitivity is a real thing, but yeah, when people try to sell anti-gluten thought to me and I tell I'm not gluten-dysfunctional they try to convince me I really am or I can't be too sure.

Adebisi · Jan 21, 2013

Gluten rules unless you're rocking some celiac disease. It's what makes bread awesome.

Fuck yeah! Bread! Cavemen were stupid fucks and they ate like morons.

arkktheseaotter_sl · Jan 21, 2013

It's hilarious to me that it's 2013 and we are trying to mimic(or so they tell you) the diet of a fucking caveman AHHAHAHAHAHAHAJAHAHA. Just get off the couch or computer chair.

Tuco · Jan 21, 2013

arkktheseaotter_sl said:
It's hilarious to me that it's 2013 and we are trying to mimic(or so they tell you) the diet of a fucking caveman AHHAHAHAHAHAHAJAHAHA. Just get off the couch or computer chair.

I was thinking about that the other day. We're obviously in the most modern state of man ever, but diets for our demographic are 'regressing' back to utilize as much natural sources as possible. It's the only example of this I can think of. Virtually every other component of my life is focused on higher tech solutions than previous generations.

Adebisi · Jan 21, 2013

Tuco wants us to eat Ivy Bridge chips.

chaos · Jan 21, 2013

I think the idea of eating something new kind of unsettles people. Like olestra or whatever the fuck, or saccharine, or HFCS, or whatever it is. The naysayers do have a point, we don;t know the long term effects of this stuff, we are basically the test subjects for some of it. Given a choice between natural and "processed" I'm going to choose the natural pretty much every time, unless it's like durian fruit or something.I don;t think there is anything necessarily wrong with that.

Dashel · Jan 21, 2013

Tech is one thing, it's synthetic and man made from inception. Food started to get fucked once scientists broke it down to it's base elements then tried to improve a naturally occurring item. It's juice, but we're adding more calcium and enriching it with vitamins. Or we're removing the fat (and adding sugar so it tastes good), increasing the protein, tripling the shelf life. These new trans-fats are better for you than saturated fats.

I dont see it as regressing.

Zefah · Jan 21, 2013

arkktheseaotter_sl said:
I love how people come from eating boxes of Cheezits and drinking Mountain Dew and eating pizza and they try Paleo or anything really and its like "OH MY GOD IT'S MAGICAL!!!" I haven't been sick in a month! I lost weight! I have more energy!

Nice straw man.

I went from eating a "healthy" low-fat diet with whole grains at the base. Lots of fat free milk and no-sugar cereal breakfasts, chicken (no skin) with sides of steamed broccoli and whole-grain bread (no butter, of course) dinners. Not only was I not enjoying my meals much, I was getting fatter!

The whole cave man stuff is just bullshit for people who like a narrative. It's all about eating foods that are good and haven't been messed with. If you take a second to look past the rhetoric of the people who decided to try and make it into a brand of sorts, you'll find a very compelling way to eat and live. Well, maybe *you* want, but I certainl did.

Picasso3 · Jan 21, 2013

Sticky this thread to the end of the forum.

Big Phoenix · Jan 22, 2013

Dashel_sl said:
Butter and olive oil yes, technically milk isnt paleo but depends who you ask. I drink milk post workout.

And if you want to get really strict, they strongly recommend grass fed butter or ghee, which is clarified butter... I've never tried it personally

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/a...ipe/index.html

The fuck lol. Why would milk be off limits but butter ok? Hell olive oil to, cavemen didnt consume any of that shit.

Araysar · Jan 22, 2013

wouldnt you have to get milk first before making it into butter? how does that make butter a paleo food but not milk?

olive oil production began in the mediterranean in agricultural civilizations around 3-4k BC, thats about as far from paleo as it gets.

splorge · Jan 22, 2013

I think the idea is that butter doesn't contain that much lactose compared to milk, and clarified butter is practically lactose free. At that point you are just basically eating fat. Milk contains a lot of carbs, which paleo tries to limit somewhat.

Big Phoenix · Jan 22, 2013

Araysar_sl said:
wouldnt you have to get milk first before making it into butter? how does that make butter a paleo food but not milk?

olive oil production began in the mediterranean in agricultural civilizations around 3-4k BC, thats about as far from paleo as it gets.

Exactly what I was pointing out. Just foolish sheep jumping on one hispter thing to the next.

iannis · Jan 22, 2013

Butter but not milk, huh. Because of the lactose, huh.

Sorry man. Somebody doesn't know what butter is. Like they literally don't know what butter is.

splorge · Jan 22, 2013

Iannis_sl said:
Butter but not milk, huh. Because of the lactose, huh.

Sorry man. Somebody doesn't know what butter is. Like they literally don't know what butter is.

let me clarify. milk is limited because of the carb content and presence of lactose. Humans were not adapted to drinking milk in paleo times. although neither milk or butter (a milk product) were consumed during paleo times, I can see why the current paleo diet community would let it slide, as it jives with the diet tenets of low carb and natural fats. Basically, stuff tastes like shit unless you cook with fat, and butter/oil get a pass because its convenient.

Big Phoenix · Jan 22, 2013

I have a diet for all the gullible fools in the world, EAT LESS THAN YOU BURN.

chaos · Jan 22, 2013

The whole "humans weren't adapted to X in paleo times" is bullshit. There is an argument to be made against eating processed foods and eating less carbs/grains, that is where the focus should be if people want others to take this thing seriously. Nothing that cavemen actually ate is probably all that appetizing. They certainly weren't eating lean meats on a daily basis, or oils and fats, or whatever. Sure they had berries and nuts when they could find them. And nasty raw ass veggies, probably a lot of generally bad tasting food.

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