Paleo 101: How and why you should eat like a Caveman

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Adebisi_sl said:
Guys guys guys! Let's get back on message here...

Wheat is bad for you.
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Bad.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/0...eed-it-or-not/

NYT_sl said:
And celebrities like Miley Cyrus, the actress and singer, have urged fans to give up gluten. "The change in your skin, physical and mental health is amazing!" she posted on Twitter in April.
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Robb Wolf and Hanna Montana. Now what?

NYT_sl said:
As with most nutrition controversies, most everyone agrees on the underlying facts. Wheat entered the human diet only about 10,000 years ago, with the advent of agriculture.

"For the previous 250,000 years, man had evolved without having this very strange protein in his gut," Dr. Guandalini said. "And as a result, this is a really strange, different protein which the human intestine cannot fully digest. Many people did not adapt to these great environmental changes, so some adverse effects related to gluten ingestion developed around that time."
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But the gluten free thing is likely a fad according to this guy's opinion:

NYT_sl said:
For celiac experts, the anti-gluten zeal is a dramatic turnaround; not many years ago, they were struggling to raise awareness among doctors that bread and pasta can make some people very sick. Now they are voicing caution, tamping down the wilder claims about gluten-free diets.

"It is not a healthier diet for those who don't need it," Dr. Guandalini said. These people "are following a fad, essentially." He added, "And that's my biased opinion."

Nonetheless, Dr. Guandalini agrees that some people who do not have celiac receive a genuine health boost from a gluten-free diet. He just cannot say how many.
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Judge for yourselves.
 
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As an experiment I gave up gluten a few months ago, and my facial rosacea which I have been treating with skin creams for years completely went away. Also my waist has gone from 34 to 30.

Life without pizza, cookies and bread has been very tough, but I just snack on macadamias and Quest Bars between meals which helps a lot to take the edge off...
 
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I've seen a few people talk about those Quest bars recently. I'm usually not a fan of bars like that but I have been looking for an easy way to get more protein.

Couple of good videos for anyone trying to drop some weight. I try to get input from a lot of different sources. I like this guy for example, who gives the perspective of a bodybuilder following sports nutrition advice. he's not a fan of paleo, but that's ok nobody is perfect. Here he talks about "diet breaks"



Here he talks about how macro percentages are not really used anymore, he suggests that all the studies show you want to keep protein up, get enough fat, and then split the rest however you wish:

 
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There were 3-4 nutritionists/dietitians on NPR today discussing the paleo diet. They essentially said that it's too much of one thing and back then, it was actually difficult and took a while to get your food compared to today. Not to mention, too much of one thing will stop providing you good nutrients.
 
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Ive been eating assorted nuts nonstop for the past week and have been having the most glorious shits ever. Nice, firm, stanky logs.


Anyways, I'm going full paleo on monday, no more grains, dairy or anything else like that for me. Just fruits, vegetables, grilled chicken, fish and occassionally some nuts and seeds with some fish oil/vitamin D supplements. We'll see how it goes. I've been having some health concerns lately.
 
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Someone who actually has a phd and is pretty much an expert on muscle protein synthesis addressing the whole "insulin is the devil" nonsense among a bunch of other ridiculous stances in fitness:



Around 16:30 for the insulin thing.
 
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I like that guy, I've seen him before maybe even that video. I agree with what he says about dont be extremist. I'd be curious to hear who is saying "insulin stops fat loss!" and "any carbs whatsoever". That seems like a bit of a strawman. I'll listen to the rest to see if he addresses insulin sensitivity. The point of the "low carb" camp is that the standard american diet is full of insulin response foods. Eventually we get to the point where you need to produce more and more to get the same effect.

I find you can be very moderate in this diet especially at 80% compliant.
 
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Araysar_sl said:
Ive been eating assorted nuts nonstop for the past week and have been having the most glorious shits ever. Nice, firm, stanky logs.


Anyways, I'm going full paleo on monday, no more grains, dairy or anything else like that for me. Just fruits, vegetables, grilled chicken, fish and occassionally some nuts and seeds with some fish oil/vitamin D supplements. We'll see how it goes. I've been having some health concerns lately.
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Started early on Saturday, so its been 4 days now. First 2 days felt perpetually starving but it eased off, feels good now. The hardest part has been an intense craving for bread.
 
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Araysar_sl said:
Started early on Saturday, so its been 4 days now. First 2 days felt perpetually starving but it eased off, feels good now. The hardest part has been an intense craving for bread.
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It'll go away for the most part other than the random craving for fresh baked bread. Did you already plow through your 'KILL ALL OF THE PEOPLE' day yet? That was my favorite day. Maybe day 5 or 6 of the first week.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=BMOjVYgYaG8

TED talk on presumably debunking the paleo diet. Worth watching if you're going to do this I suppose. She makes some valid points but her conclusions seem to be way off. I think she misses the point on a lot of this. Her summary at the very end on what we can learn from our paleolithic ancestors is exactly in line with what I always hear pushed in a paleo diet. Fresh whole foods, varied diet.

Her arguments about what she calls the "meat myth" were not persuasive. Grains even less so.
 
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Dashel_sl said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=BMOjVYgYaG8

TED talk on presumably debunking the paleo diet. Worth watching if you're going to do this I suppose. She makes some valid points but her conclusions seem to be way off. I think she misses the point on a lot of this. Her summary at the very end on what we can learn from our paleolithic ancestors is exactly in line with what I always hear pushed in a paleo diet. Fresh whole foods, varied diet.

Her arguments about what she calls the "meat myth" were not persuasive. Grains even less so.
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I think her point was that say whatever you want about the efficacy of the "paleo" diet today for fat loss and health, but the people who are eating this way aren't mimicking our ancestors, or "Cavemen".
 
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Yeah but at the end she says the things we can take from our paleolithic ancestors are: eat fresh food, eat whole food, eat diverse diet. Which is exactly what paleo preaches. Meanwhile she just got through saying all the foods we eat are different from what they were thousands of years ago, so exactly what fresh whole foods does she advocate eating that paleo doesnt?

Now that warm weather is coming back and I can break out the grill, paleo is going to get a lot easier for me. Steak, chicken and veggies on the grill all day.
 
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Cavemen didn't have grills. Gotta go hand-cranked spit for authenticity.

Also, don't pussy out of this by saying "fresh food, whole food, diverse diet" is "exactly" what paleo preaches. A whole bunch of diets recommend that. Paleo requires you to be a retard on top of that.
 
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I'd love to see pictures of all the rock-hard bodies the paleo guys in this thread have.

Wait.
 
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It's a good framework for eating good foods, it's not the only approach that works. Not fearing fat and questioning grains is something that sets it apart from other approaches. I find it makes things easier for me.

I could post pics if you wanted but it doesn't prove or disprove anything.
 
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Dashel_sl said:
It's a good framework for eating good foods, it's not the only approach that works. Not fearing fat and questioning grains is something that sets it apart from other approaches. I find it makes things easier for me.

I could post pics if you wanted but it doesn't prove or disprove anything.
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If nothing else, I commend you for never losing your shit in this thread. Well done.
 
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Dashel_sl said:
Yeah but at the end she says the things we can take from our paleolithic ancestors are: eat fresh food, eat whole food, eat diverse diet. Which is exactly what paleo preaches. Meanwhile she just got through saying all the foods we eat are different from what they were thousands of years ago, so exactly what fresh whole foods does she advocate eating that paleo doesnt?

Now that warm weather is coming back and I can break out the grill, paleo is going to get a lot easier for me. Steak, chicken and veggies on the grill all day.
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You are so fucking stupid. Who *doesn't* preach eating fresh, whole, diverse foods? I've never seen a diet state "You should only eat processed, shelf-stable foods of one variety. Ever." (except for fucking slimfast or whatever retarded shit who makes TV dinners for fat retards that are so stupid that that's the best they can do.)
 
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