Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

Look. I don't give a fuck if any of y'all are Brad or not. In fact, I would find it funny if you were. But hell, after the ass reaming that he's gotten here? I would find that ultra-hilarious.

And not funny in a haha kind'a way, funny in a sad and lonely kind'a way.

The only advantage I see to not having a map is the savings in development time. People who play this are either going to pull up a web site or someone will design a SEQ style program that will have a map overlay on screen anyway. Either way everyone will have access to maps one way or another.

How many of you have decided to purchase one of the support packages for this? I took a look at them and read the forums looked at the characters etc... it has me intrigued, but I am loathe to be taken, once again, by a game that had a nice shiny surface and absolutely no substance. I guess pledging 500 bucks for 2 copies of the game and 3 months play time along with the other perks, isn't horrible. What do you think?

And ya, EQ mapping to date has been my favourite.

Herrt said:

How many of you have decided to purchase one of the support packages for this? I took a look at them and read the forums looked at the characters etc... it has me intrigued, but I am loathe to be taken, once again, by a game that had a nice shiny surface and absolutely no substance. I guess pledging 500 bucks for 2 copies of the game and 3 months play time along with the other perks, isn't horrible. What do you think?

And ya, EQ mapping to date has been my favourite.

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Cons:
1. Brad McQuaid
2. From what I can tell they have completed/populated one zone and one dungeon out of maybe 25+ zones and 15+ dungeons? That's a long ways to go.
3. They have about one third of the classes somewhat done but not fleshed out or balanced.
4. As far as I know they do not have a 3d artist on the team. And no player models (7 races), armor/weapons, mobs, animations have been done.
5. Most of the team is still voluntary.

Pros:
1. They have a CEO and its not McQuaid.
2. They seem to have a dedicated team (though dedication does not equal excellence).
3. They have 10,000 backers (conservatively 1 mil in donations) plus its implied they have had a couple of "angel investors".
4. They are still adding to the team (15 or 17 now?). Most recently they added a guy from the Vanguard Emu project, you have to be dedicated to work on an emu.

My guess is a 50% chance they will release "something" in the next 4 years. Which is good since a year ago I would have put it at about 5%. Since you would be eligible, alpha/beta will probably be in just a few zones with most of the classes for a looong time. This is indie on a shoestring budget with a questionable faceman but its the only group oriented, class interdependent game on the horizon. If you want to spend the money more power to ya but just know what you are getting into.

My hot take is that they've been trying to find an investor for a while and outside of some mystery money, they haven't. Hero's Song is being ran like a joke and Smedley pulled in at least a million or two from investors.

They are a group full of mostly MMO fans, not game developers. They are trying to make a game in the most expensive genre. I'm crunching the math and it doesn't look good.

So the release in 2017 is a farce, sounds like how Vanguard went, I will hold off for another 6 months take a look then.

Herrt said:

So the release in 2017 is a farce, sounds like how Vanguard went, I will hold off for another 6 months take a look then.

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They don't update shit; the updates are an even bigger farce than the release date. They still haven't learned from the failures of the KS and could probably rake in a pretty decent amount of money from their site if they actually had regular updates with some substance (state of the game, systems, etc.) like CU, Crowfall, etc. rather than stupid community member spotlights.

qwertyqweqwertwqert said:

I wont. And most people who played EQ had no map either and did fine.

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Every single person I knew personally in the game either ran SEQ or had a three ring binder full of maps printed from EQmap. If not then it was a fairly good sign you were a scrub.