Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

Soygen said:

That was pretty cool.

Click to expand...

130k polygons. When I reduce the mesh to 75k polygons it looks like a ball of clay.

While cool as fuck, serves no purpose for the common consumer PC. Main reason why realism never works, details cost performance.

So we have balls of clay running around.









Emperor Rogaine looks badass tho

Laura said:

I don't like the character model. I hate realistic looking character models; they look so bad and the graphics eventually don't age well. The guy looks like your average Joe; makes me feel I'm playing Second Life or the Sims and not a Fantasy MMORPG. I loved EQ because it wasn't cartoony yet it wasn't realistic; characters did feel they belong in a fantasy world.

Click to expand...

Well it is a human so they are supposed to look like that unless you stylise them slightly but then they look like dolls or something. Can't really win with a human. But the quality of it is amazing and if you imagine Trolls, Ogres, Dark Elves, etc. with that quality, it is gonna look sweet.

Laura said:

I despised the raid part about EQ. To this day I don't understand why/how people enjoy doing raids (apart from the loot) raiding on itself in EQ was a torture for me. If people loved the progress of overcoming difficult encounters you can do the same in a smaller group scale; the difference it would be way more fun and you don't feel like you're a waste of space. What I'm looking for in Pantheon is 80% group content; Raids can be enjoyed but only as a small part of the experience unlike how EQ developed during SoL, PoP and Gates of Discord.

Click to expand...

I'm with ya, I hate raiding. I read or heard Brad somewhere talking about how Pantheon will be almost entirely group content with just a small bit of raiding. I think it was in a Q&A or something. I got the impression that the game will be more like 99% group/solo content and 1% raids. Hope so anyway.

xzi said:

Fable defintiely has a good stylized "realism", same with Dishonored. I think Dishonored might be my favorite.

Click to expand...

xzi said:

You can defend the graphics all you want but if they stick with that janky ass animation in a game focused around combat it's gonna bomb aside from the 17 supporters they have

Click to expand...

There are lots of games with great graphics and great art styles, but they are all huge budget games and they all have shitty gameplay. I don't think you can have both, it just isn't possible. Part of the problem is that the amount of money it costs to make beautiful games means there is never enough left over for the gameplay. And another part of the problem is that when they are spending that much money, nobody is willing to risk it not being bought by millions of people to recover the costs, and to satisfy millions of people you can't have challenge or depth and they wont risk trying new ideas either.

Basically be careful what you wish for. People have always wanted better graphics and that's what ruined the games industry in the first place. The whole point of Pantheon and all crowd funded games is that they are being designed for a niche audience who value gameplay over anything else. I would like better animations too but not if takes time and money away from more spells or more dungeons or something I am far more interested in. I can still enjoy EQ today and that has extremely crappy animations.

better graphics is more details which means huge performance costs.

everyone wants it, but it just simply isnt possible.

so people have to embrace the americanized anime or the asian anime styles.

id rather have shitty eq models, but im prolly autistic. everyone who touches eqbrowser that has never played eq ALWAYS says the graphics look so fucking bad its unplayable.

tyen said:

everyone who touches eqbrowser that has never played eq ALWAYS says the graphics look so fucking bad its unplayable.

Click to expand...

That is more to do with the age of the person. I can still play Syndicate, System Shock, or Total Annihilation and not even think twice about the graphics.

goishen said:

Errr, no.

I can still remember when HL1 came out. I can still recall when the original XCOM : UFO Defence (not Defense) came out.

I can still play them but god damn it do they shitty graphics. KOTOR II has shitty graphics. They're fun to play, but their graphics aren't one of their selling points. And yes, I'm noticing them every single fucking time I boot up one of these games.

Click to expand...

Errr, yes. The difference is that I grew up with Manic Miner so System Shock still looks slick to me even now. You grew up with HL1 so HL1 looks shitty.

when it comes to char creation, animations, and models: i simply dont give a fuck.

its odd to me reading all the qq about it, most likely because autism.

if it cant be badass models because of the one i posted brcause fps is pure unplayable, eho fucking cares. as long as its not japanese anime bullshit

Skanda said:

First thing to learn about Qwerty before trying to interact with him. As far as he is concerned, he is infallible in his analysis of the video game industry and all the rest of us plebs are just mouth breathers banging rocks together.

Click to expand...

Glad someone finally gets it.

Gameplay > Graphics. That is all you need to learn from todays seminar.

Pant'heon: Ris'e of the As'pies