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Zaide

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Anyone who plans to do the PvP server when it launches, I’ve got a small crew pre forming for it.

ATM we are led to believe it will be a +-5 PvP range beginning at level 5, with coin and inventory loot (non equipped), and exp loss/gain on kills.

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DickTrickle

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Sloan said:
Hey no problem! I know you are very busy doing deep "code base" dives and such.
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You can tell by the breadth and depth of his response that he is surely very highly informed and making a full in-depth analysis.
 
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DickTrickle said:
You can tell by the breadth and depth of his response that he is surely very highly informed and making a full in-depth analysis.
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Is what it is...play both imo. Looking forward to the Pantheon PVP server, has the potential to be a huge clusterfuck and as such the closest thing to classic EQ yet.
 
Nirgon

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Zaide said:
Anyone who plans to do the PvP server when it launches, I’ve got a small crew pre forming for it.

ATM we are led to believe it will be a +-5 PvP range beginning at level 5, with coin and inventory loot (non equipped), and exp loss/gain on kills.

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no xp loss now, not sure if gain went with it
 
Zaide

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Nirgon said:
no xp loss now, not sure if gain went with it
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It’s like they don’t want people to be griefed off the server.

I wish they’d do item loot on death to include equipped items. There is almost never something rotting in someone’s bags that you want to loot.
 
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Zaide said:
It’s like they don’t want people to be griefed off the server.

I wish they’d do item loot on death to include equipped items. There is almost never something rotting in someone’s bags that you want to loot.
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Dunno i would run around with 5 pairs of jacked rabbit boots before they got nerfed. Camped that pos for days.
 
Nirgon

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Zaide said:
It’s like they don’t want people to be griefed off the server.

I wish they’d do item loot on death to include equipped items. There is almost never something rotting in someone’s bags that you want to loot.
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I also am an advocate for 1 equipped item loot. That way there's something for random pks to do instead of join one of the mega raid guilds.
 
Pasteton

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At 15 enc gets access to expose too which is really nice as wizards can put their resist debuff on the mob. In general they did a great job with skills for this early on. I love having to think about what I’m putting on my bars and it’s a bit different depending on whether I’m solo group or even duo and depending on the mobs I’m fighting too. Mobs have abilities that can be easily avoided countered if paying attention. Just overall surprisingly well implemented and it’s really worth stating that these are the things that most games mess up, so good on them.

now they just need to hire people to basically create or improvement literally everything else which is decades behind industry norms
 
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Zaide said:
Anyone who plans to do the PvP server when it launches, I’ve got a small crew pre forming for it.

ATM we are led to believe it will be a +-5 PvP range beginning at level 5, with coin and inventory loot (non equipped), and exp loss/gain on kills.

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General Antony

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Zaide said:
It’s like they don’t want people to be griefed off the server.

I wish they’d do item loot on death to include equipped items. There is almost never something rotting in someone’s bags that you want to loot.
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This has been tried and it leads to absolutely degenerate outcomes. Only a subtard like Nirgon Nirgon would advocate for this.

I was there 3,000 years ago when Rallos Zek was 75% naked wizards, necros, druids, and mages.
 
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Flobee

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Yea, this is a PVE game. If I get phat loot I wanna use it to gank people not hide it in the bank unless im guaranteed to win. Maybe some wouldn't play that way, but most will
 
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Flobee said:
Yea, this is a PVE game. If I get phat loot I wanna use it to gank people not hide it in the bank unless im guaranteed to win. Maybe some wouldn't play that way, but most will
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Yeah exactly like DAOC.

It was a cool idea to have powerful Relic Weapons or whatever they were called that dropped when you died in battle. Going to the next dude. In reality nearly all of them sat in banks. Forever.

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I was there 3,000 years ago when Rallos Zek was 75% naked wizards, necros, druids, and mages.
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It was the same strategy in Ultima Online too. Want to gank? Be a mage and carry nothing on you but reagents for the best spells.

MMO PVP is gay as fuck. At best its a fun distraction. Let it be unbalanced and faggoty if people want to do that. Don't spend any time developing it.
 
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Flobee

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MMO pvp can be amazing in a PVE focused game like this. It becomes all about dominating good xp/loot areas and as long as the server doesn't just turn into one zerg raiding everything you get tons of dumb drama to drive more guild vs guild stuff. It can be a lot of fun but if its anything like Red99 boy does it attract a specific type of person lol.

Edit: I actually generally like PVP in a PVE focused game rather than one built for it. DAOC being an exception where they actually did it right. Games like Shadowbane, Crowfall, etc are great conceptually but have never really hit with me
 
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You have to distribute the effects of the wins and losses across more people than those involved in each individual skirmish. I think geographic control of higher quality areas is the best prize for achieving that, but you need a large world with many different areas that can't effectively be monopolized.

EQ had Lower Guk and Solb, a few groups of people could effectively deter their enemies from having any access to a place to play the game and acquire things needed to dethrone them.
 
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TairyGreene

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Also Nirgon - I'd really like to see the playstyle of the cleric move back towards how you can play it in the lower levels. Where you're constantly in melee fighting, like a battle cleric. Everyone talks about Vanguard, and Im sure some people are sick of the reference, but the Disciple was really fun to play and thats what early clerics remind me of. Then you get 13, and your ass is permanently attached to the floor.
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Big agree there should be some flexibility in play style. Make the class fun to play. EQ clerics would be way less boring and a more popular main class if they got some better offensive tools in their kit.
 
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Blitz

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Ok, so, I'm not buying this game.

But for people who are, what are the OP classes? Are Warriors nothing more than tanks along (no ability to semi-solo, even)?

Also, I don't believe it was answered but are their players that are playing beyond Steam? Pre-Alpha buyers etc? Or is Steam's charts gathering the whole picture as far as player counts go?
 
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