Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

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Nirgon

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Raids don't need more than 4 tanks usually in these games. Groups all need one. So that's going to be a thing like always. Plus, people just don't feel up to the responsibility of tank and healer most of the time in MMO.


Unless the summoners can fill that niche via mastery spending and mentoring is correctly incentivized - you're gonna see untouched group mobs up all over.

Which is fine in some regards with solo and duo being possible.

If warrior gets a bump up, I'm definitely playing one. The shield block style looks fun but the class is a little weaker.
 
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TairyGreene said:
This group mob Chevron system is so bad. I couldn't get a group so ended up duoing and trioing. 90% of the mobs in WE are group tagged and sitting there untouched.
At lvls 8-9 I'm left wandering around looking for occasional roaming scraps while being locked out of 90% of the zone. I get marking the occasional rare or boss mob as a tougher enemy, but ENTIRE camps? Outdoors? From the POV of a noobie starting in WE, this system is terrible and needs to go. This game is doomed if they seriously plan on artificially locking out soloers and small groups out of so much content.
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'we are a small team'...
 
Nirgon

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It's disingenuous to say group dungeons and content are locking people out of so much. You don't see people saying that in the WoW thread when there's dungeon content or "group quests/steps" requiring a tank and healer.
 
Zaide

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Nirgon said:
Raids don't need more than 4 tanks usually in these games. Groups all need one. So that's going to be a thing like always. Plus, people just don't feel up to the responsibility of tank and healer most of the time in MMO.


Unless the summoners can fill that niche via mastery spending and mentoring is correctly incentivized - you're gonna see untouched group mobs up all over.

Which is fine in some regards with solo and duo being possible.

If warrior gets a bump up, I'm definitely playing one. The shield block style looks fun but the class is a little weaker.
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I heard Summoner pets may be getting nerfed this Weds. I’ve been playing one and it doesn’t seem OP currently.
 
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Nirgon

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Zaide said:
I heard Summoner pets may be getting nerfed this Weds. I’ve been playing one and it doesn’t seem OP currently.
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Summoner doesn't have an interrupt? Or dps as good as a wizard or any cc? Idk I think they'd be best served with earth pet being a possible group tank that lowers their own damage while it's out. If they have a better ideas than mine for how to improve things beyond past MMO, I'm all ears. Right now, it's nothing new from other games as far as wtb tank/healer for dungeon.
 
TairyGreene

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Nirgon said:
It's disingenuous to say group dungeons and content are locking people out of so much. You don't see people saying that in the WoW thread when there's dungeon content or "group quests/steps" requiring a tank and healer.
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I don't play WoW but I'm gonna guess there's lots of other shit to do in WoW, in addition to a group finder system that makes it easy to find people to do dungeon content with.

Tell me what my options are at lvl 9 in Wild's End. The group game is almost nonexistant. I guess everyone goes to Thronefast because WE is such a dogshit zone. The LFG window is hilarious. It's 18 people in Thronefast and 2 in WE.

Making little camps of bees in the middle of nowhere group mob HP sponges is so fucking stupid, it boggles the mind. What games do these devs play? Who thought this was a good idea? It's awful.
 
Siliconemelons

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Dire Lord needs a pet :-(

They also need to be able to use more weapons.

I get the idea of them being a just sub war and pal tank but better if its a magic foe…
 
Siliconemelons

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I just want a pet

Spears yo, halberd pol arm

They did a poor job of promoting that lore, the intro quests are “the dogs outside are loud, go kill them” and “lol i hid a bag by spiders”

Then go kill some cultists and poof done, no “okay go to town and meet a secret informer” or whatever, just “k thx”
 
Daidraco

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Siliconemelons said:
I just want a pet

Spears yo, halberd pol arm

They did a poor job of promoting that lore, the intro quests are “the dogs outside are loud, go kill them” and “lol i hid a bag by spiders”

Then go kill some cultists and poof done, no “okay go to town and meet a secret informer” or whatever, just “k thx”
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Dont think they have a lot of that train of thought on their minds. When you start looking at gear, it is incredibly limited in what you can get.
 
Nirgon

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It is disingenuous because lack of tanks and healers is common in MMO

It's not unique to Pantheon

There's plenty of solo and duo content

I've offered feedback on what I think is the best way to address it via expanding options to summoners via mastery of their respective tanky pets and a mentoring system/killing meaningful named being the only way to get mastery
 
Mahes

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Edaw said:
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Fake. A person's natural reaction after the first time would have been to hold their hands out the next time. My daughter is autistic and she would not have done that the 2nd time. Blind people would not have done that the 2nd time.
 
TairyGreene

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Zaide said:
Yeah dawg if you want to stand on that you’re welcome to. Alternatively you could try to have fun.
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Dawg, I'm not standing on anything. I posted an opinion as a starting player in WE and the Pantheon white knight swooped in to tell me I was being "disingenuous." Like this is a debate forum or something.

I genuinely wondered what my options were. If the answer to that is "leave" then I'm not wrong in feeling that WE sucks and the group mob implementation is bad.

The LFG window speaks for itself. WE needs to be reworked.
 
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Palum

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Nirgon said:
It's disingenuous to say group dungeons and content are locking people out of so much. You don't see people saying that in the WoW thread when there's dungeon content or "group quests/steps" requiring a tank and healer.
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Maybe it's only because there's 4 people playing and you need 5
 
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