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Daidraco

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Daidraco Daidraco when you playing?
Tomorrow with a hangover probably, lol.

He said late Jan and before PvP which is next month but this wasn’t the “official reveal” so I’m guessing it’s coming Jan 29th.
Dude even said in some long winded response that he couldnt "create" and "balance" together, so that pretty much signifies to me, in my head, that its going to be OP as fuck. He also kept going on and on about PVP when he was creating Druid's Tree Form as well. You can tell he's really hype about Druid, and it kind of makes me think he played one in early EQ. The whole time he's playing, just sitting there thinking .. "Man. Druids should be able to do this!" and now he finally gets the chance to make it happen.

Couple things to note for the PVP server - Druids undoubtably going to be the the Healer of choice when leveling. So be prepared to stay second fiddle if thats your jam. Next thing is, if you're attacking one - its pretty obvious that your objective is to kill (depending on HP) or CC the dog first. As it stands right now, the power obviously needs to go more towards the pet or more towards the player. But that balancing is not going to take place anytime soon, since the Summoner has the same problem.

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Same issue yesterday. No Enchanter or Necromancer to be found. When I saw one LFG, two more were LFG within that same 5-10 minute period. Then later on, not a single one to be found. Do a who, and where are they in the 20's? In Silent Plains or Eastern Plains, soloing. "Nah, I get better exp soloing. Thanks though!" .... Games definitely in an aggravating spot with the competition between soloing and grouping. I'd love for Rogue to have a Sap or a Monks Feign Death to actually fkn work. Its like they arent even paying attention to how thin the population gets in the late teens.
 
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Zaide

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Tomorrow with a hangover probably, lol.


Dude even said in some long winded response that he couldnt "create" and "balance" together, so that pretty much signifies to me, in my head, that its going to be OP as fuck. He also kept going on and on about PVP when he was creating Druid's Tree Form as well. You can tell he's really hype about Druid, and it kind of makes me think he played one in early EQ. The whole time he's playing, just sitting there thinking .. "Man. Druids should be able to do this!" and now he finally gets the chance to make it happen.

Couple things to note for the PVP server - Druids undoubtably going to be the the Healer of choice when leveling. So be prepared to stay second fiddle if thats your jam. Next thing is, if you're attacking one - its pretty obvious that your objective is to kill (depending on HP) or CC the dog first. As it stands right now, the power obviously needs to go more towards the pet or more towards the player. But that balancing is not going to take place anytime soon, since the Summoner has the same problem.

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Same issue yesterday. No Enchanter or Necromancer to be found. When I saw one LFG, two more were LFG within that same 5-10 minute period. Then later on, not a single one to be found. Do a who, and where are they in the 20's? In Silent Plains or Eastern Plains, soloing. "Nah, I get better exp soloing. Thanks though!" .... Games definitely in an aggravating spot with the competition between soloing and grouping. I'd love for Rogue to have a Sap or a Monks Feign Death to actually fkn work. Its like they arent even paying attention to how thin the population gets in the late teens.
What do you want from Necros in the group? Do they bring solid CC in the teens?
 

Blueweed

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Tomorrow with a hangover probably, lol.


Dude even said in some long winded response that he couldnt "create" and "balance" together, so that pretty much signifies to me, in my head, that its going to be OP as fuck. He also kept going on and on about PVP when he was creating Druid's Tree Form as well. You can tell he's really hype about Druid, and it kind of makes me think he played one in early EQ. The whole time he's playing, just sitting there thinking .. "Man. Druids should be able to do this!" and now he finally gets the chance to make it happen.

Couple things to note for the PVP server - Druids undoubtably going to be the the Healer of choice when leveling. So be prepared to stay second fiddle if thats your jam. Next thing is, if you're attacking one - its pretty obvious that your objective is to kill (depending on HP) or CC the dog first. As it stands right now, the power obviously needs to go more towards the pet or more towards the player. But that balancing is not going to take place anytime soon, since the Summoner has the same problem.

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Same issue yesterday. No Enchanter or Necromancer to be found. When I saw one LFG, two more were LFG within that same 5-10 minute period. Then later on, not a single one to be found. Do a who, and where are they in the 20's? In Silent Plains or Eastern Plains, soloing. "Nah, I get better exp soloing. Thanks though!" .... Games definitely in an aggravating spot with the competition between soloing and grouping. I'd love for Rogue to have a Sap or a Monks Feign Death to actually fkn work. Its like they arent even paying attention to how thin the population gets in the late teens.
I tot I saw Jap on video mentioning he didnt play a whole lot of EQ1 but tons of EQ2....then again I could be drunk
 

Pasteton

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Yea it’s pretty retarded as a lvl 22 enc I can’t get groups and soloing is actually competitive xp wise unless the group is really solid and stays together more than a couple hours and no wipes/afks - in other words, soloing is usually better lol. And this is despite playing what is probably the worst soloing class.

They need to increased server pop caps so getting a group going isn’t as painfully slow. It’s been a while but definitely felt like I had an easier time grouping in eq than this game, esp as an enc (although soloing is far easier in pantheon).

Unrelated - I tried to do the run from avendyrs to Eastern plains yesterday and got lost. Silent plains is scary as fuck had red con roamers even as a lvl 22. When I got to eastern plans , was surrounded by group wild blood mobs. What direction do you run to get to the chicken field when you enter ep from that side?? I usually run from wilds end but that shit is more convoluted , and also I am bound at Halnir for now so the avp side run makes more sense
 

Valorath

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I am surprised to hear enchanters having a hard time finding a group. I guess maybe most folks dedicated enough to get to 20+ are more likely to have a static, so don’t need to fill with randoms. The only guy in our group who is unreliable is our second monk, so when he’s gone we just fill with whatever.
 

Flobee

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I am surprised to hear enchanters having a hard time finding a group. I guess maybe most folks dedicated enough to get to 20+ are more likely to have a static, so don’t need to fill with randoms. The only guy in our group who is unreliable is our second monk, so when he’s gone we just fill with whatever.
I think its just that the risk/reward for group/vs solo play later on skews heavily on solo. Its similar in speed and MUCH lower effort. Grouping is really fun but you really do need everybody paying attention and interupting, closing openers, etc. Group stuff requires it generally
 
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Control

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disgusted king of the hill GIF
Oh My God Omg GIF
 

moonarchia

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Just had a good old shit tier PUG. 3 corpse runs later, I bailed and called it a day. 5 bubs into 17, looking good for tonight.
 
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Daidraco

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What do you want from Necros in the group? Do they bring solid CC in the teens?
I dont know how it was when you played - but now they can "channel" a mez spell on their target. Means their player DPS is tied up on the mez, but they can still control their pet in that scenario. An enchanter brings more CC to the table, and their CC overwrites a Necro's - but most pulls are just two mobs unless the person pulling is an absolute shit tier puller. Which just so happens to be most monks for whatever reason.

PVP or PVE - Id rather have an enchanter. But Im not picky. If Im thinking of corpse summoning, Im thinking of Summoner. If Im thinking of a split between summon corpse and a backup mez, Im thinking necro.