Had one of those back to back 10k's either drop their pledge or reduce it significantly
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Those tier changes are looking a bit better Brad. The changing the beta to alpha on the 750 guild tier is going to help a lot I think , also was the 60 days game time included before ? Couldn't remember , if not that's a good perk too. That's actually a pretty good 10 man package. It's something I'll try and use as a good tier to push on some websites and forums. Easier to sell it.
Vandyn
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Honestly, I think at this point, I don't think it's the tiers that are preventing people from pledging higher (or pledging at all). Yes, they can continue to spice up the tiers since they seem so confusing. But there needs to be more meat to the bone as far as the game itself and I think that's what's holding this thing back. I've been watching the kicktraq trends and the one thing I'm watching is number of backers per day. Today has been a bad day in that regard (only around 65). This project is not going to get funded with those kind of numbers every day. Like I said a few pages ago, unless you get a mad rush of backers paying in the higher tiers, you're going to need close to 10k to reach goal.
Yeah I agree, I believe that will start tomorrow as they get some more revealed about the game. Hopefully it will start enticing more pledges.
What I was talking about is I bet you could get a significant number of current backers to toss some more money in with add-on for current ones. Completely agree with you though on well presented new info needs to get out and be pushed out.
I do think that something like
+30 add-on Soundtrack CD (with some decent cover art work)
+50 Autographed poster sized map of game world
Would get several thousand dollars more from current folks. More as it went on also. If people see it trending to getting funded , and want to kick in more , this is something they'd pitch in for and get something tangible for the swag folks.
I do think that something like
+30 add-on Soundtrack CD (with some decent cover art work)
+50 Autographed poster sized map of game world
Would get several thousand dollars more from current folks. More as it went on also. If people see it trending to getting funded , and want to kick in more , this is something they'd pitch in for and get something tangible for the swag folks.
Just was pointed out on the KS forums that the new 2000 pledge actually gets you much more (both lower and upper guild tier) than the paragon does at 50 dollars less a person.
Now we just need to get groups of 10 of us on here organized to go that route.........
Now we just need to get groups of 10 of us on here organized to go that route.........
Big Flex
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I actually just noticed that you still dont get the previous tier rewards like the $1 sub, mount, and stuff like that, which I want...so I'd have to pass on the guild thing for me personally.
Eh good point , no mounts or other items. Will have to look at it (I changed at away from lifetime sub to paragon anyway so that parts not a loss , but need to look over other items ). Also lose the 2nd copy of the game.
Yeah its great for those people just wanting to get into the game as a guild and such, but thats probably why they are keeping those perks useful in the other tiers for people going in solo. Something for everyone.
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This is exactly why I am being critical of the whole thing, the thing I wish more people would think about is if those of us here are having doubts how does the average person who comes across this feel? It should be a no brainer for us, there should be enough information that everyone on this board at least tosses in $10.00 but there really isn't enough to do even that, and this is from a board founded in EQ roots.
Ok I am going to try to dive into this one last time. I know Brad and Co. are reading the thread but I don't know how much they agree with or care about the statements. I really feel like they should put out an announcement and delay the kickstarter for a week or so and put out the word why. Just be humble we jumped the gun a little.
Take a few moments and go over what you want to accomplish with this kickstarter, the stretch goals including shit like other classes make it sound like unless you reach those then classes aren't going to be in the game.Basic core parts of the game should never be a stretch goal!!! It turns people off. Be upfront that this isn't to fund the game! PERIOD!This kickstarter isn't funding the game if it was you would be asking for 8 million or whatever. Tell us what you intend to do with the fucking money, what your goal is. Define success for this goddamn kickstarter.
Once that is done sit down and think about the rewards, and put together a tier of goods that make sense. Think about the offers, do they make sense, you can have limited ones for sure, the $250 lifetime and the $250 alpha need to be rethought out the most, just like the guild packages do. Offer a limited Alpha + Lifetime at a $300-400 cost I am sure people would fucking jump on it. You will be making physical copies of the games if this succeeded offer a physical copy, no fuck that a signed physical copy that's a decent value add at pretty much no cost to you.
Give us something to fucking chew on about the game. We don't expect shit loads of videos ect, but how about some concept art for monsters, or shit how about an introduction to your current staff and let them toss out a few words why they believe in this project. It would be nice to hear the passion coming from you guys as to why we fucking need this. Your video you don't even seen to inspire yourself. Let these guys say hey Pantheon is the game I have always wanted to make and here it why, this is what makes it special.. talk about instancing, death penalties, talk about the challenges you have had on other games, what you have learned, why you really are reaching out and need the communities help and what you are going to do for them in return.
Get a PR person to set up all of the major gaming sites you can pull interest in to promote the new kickstarter launch date, fucking tweet, facebook, pintest, Reddit AMA, and promote it on all pages at the same time. Talk to someone over at Cursed or MMOChamp see if you can get a small section added into their front page, talk to some of your supporters who enjoyed your games, hit up Penny Arcade, talk to some of the EQ fan sites, or some of the webcomic sites, reach out as if you care spend a little bit of time talking with these people instead of just saying hey guys push my shit out please. I mean just spending a bit of time bullshitting with people here would go a long ways to gaining support for those on the fence. Most of us really would love to see the game you describe, we really would, we are passionate gamers who care about this stuff, so take some time and give us a reason to put down that cash. Hell reach out and see if someone can get in touch with Furor and have him come here and offer his stamp of approval. I am sure that would inspire a few more people to donate. You are a professional developer with a ton of experience that's why so many are surprised about the lack of professionalism with this kickstarter. Why is it different this time around.You need to sell us the dream with that kickstarter page, not just ask for money.Hell in your current state you are losing as many pledges as you are getting.
Muligan
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Can't do LT subs on KS I thought?Intriguing. But no lifetime sub. And who would get the cool crown?!
I was thinking....if Brad has planned a little better he could have contacted Todd McFarlane to have an action figure made of "Aradune Mithara". My wife just yelled from her desk, "Bahhh, Todd don't work cheap", but still, its a cool idea!
tad10
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Brad should talk to the Project Gorgon guys. They're also making an old school MMO, though they have a bit to show for it. Just had a big graphics upgrade actually. And I think anyone can try out the pre-alpha now.
If I remember right, they're actually old programmers from Asheron's Call.
If I remember right, they're actually old programmers from Asheron's Call.
shabushabu
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The thing that shocked me right away was alpha access being so cheap. To me, you are making a significant time investment to participate in an alpha and really want to be part of helping the game succeed and I would think folks in that mindset would be willing to part with more than $45. I thought Alpha would have been 100+.
That's honestly a really good point, but unfortunately they can't change any of those lower tiers now anyway with people backing them.