Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO
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Bruman
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There's zero reason to think that. The most likely scenario is PC Gamer fell behind their timeline writing up the article. That's it.
He genuinely thought this was just going to sell itself didn't he ? There was enough arrogance or ignorance on their part to think that the name(s) and very much need for a game like this would make it a successful Kickstarter with little effort.
It's the only logical thing I can come up with having the Kickstarter be in this state with so little.
It's the only logical thing I can come up with having the Kickstarter be in this state with so little.
Maybe PC gamer looked at the content of their article and said this is a piece of shit just like the kickstarter campaign and decided not to run with it.
Big Flex
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So now my best hope for an mmo is for some group of folks with lots of time on their hands to take the EQL engine and tools and remake EQ/VG I guess.............
You guys are all some bitter, harsh and jaded mother-fuckers. I'll admit this KS adventure has been pretty amateur hour and there have been a huge amount of mistakes and is unlikely to succeed. I knew that before I gave them my money. It feels like a bunch of you don't even know what the KS website is all about. Most of you are the same people who would bitch and moan if there wouldn't be an update about anything for 12-24 hours, demanding to see value for your money. Or better yet, for free. LOL
I think at this point funding it will send the wrong message. It would basically tell him that he can throw whatever shit he wants at the wall and it will stick. Well it didn't stick in Vanguard, and it seems he hasn't learned much since then because he shows up without so much as a design doc (I don't care what he says, it doesn't exist), he's done nothing concrete to show us, the potential investor, why we should give him nearly a million dollars. There isn't even a fucking zone even started. No art done, no characters drawn, not even a dumb zone with a river running through it with some mountain in the background. Nothing. Theres no business plan, no lore, no organizational structure whatsoever. Theres no plan. Its just random devs frantically racing around to various web sites, they talk for a few, then bail.
I've seen very good ideas thrown around but this KS is fail on an epic level. I will continue to support him, or his idea but not financially until he admits he fucked up, pulls this crappy kickstarter down, gets his shit together and comes back strong with an actual business model.
Yeah, I am backed at 45 dollar tier right now but am on the verge of pulling out. I want the game to be made but I think it is detrimental to the game for this kickstarter to succeed at this point. I would much rather Brad pull the plug on this and come back at a later time where he will have much more support and raise more money with a greater likelihood to succeed. I would almost certainly even back at a higher level than I am right now if he came back with a good plan and a good campaign.
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Yeah I was on the fence about upping my shit to $250 before they ran out of the lifetime subs, but I agree. He needs to tuck tail, go back to the bat cave, and come out strong with something worthwhile like a true dark night. I honestly hope they do because it would be exciting to play a more hardcore mmo once again.
And yes, I still have faith in the vision.
And yes, I still have faith in the vision.
By the way I see a lot of downgrading pledges. What is the point of that? Either pull out or stay at your current pledge. Just lowering it doesn't really do anything.
This is true. There are plenty of guys on here with good ideas who've been busting their asses promoting this game. They could have got Lithose, Troy, and Dakoht in a (chat) room and started running things by them first. It is the era of social media. It's not wise to lockout your fanbase from the decision making process anymore.
Nemesis
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while I agree with most of the rest of your post, understand that you areNOTan investor. You are a donor. You are putting your money in someone's hat, in hopes that it will help them to achieve their goals.
While we are ALL disappointed at the direction this has gone, it seems that many people are discussing their contributions as if theyWEREinvestors, when that is just simply not the case.
INVESTOR
An investor is a person who allocates capital with the expectation of a financial return.
Quaid
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Well for me it's just because I'm an MMORPG enthusiast, and $45 for the box, alpha, and a month sub is a good price. I'm gonna buy this game no matter what whether it's now or in 3 years, so I might as well now to save myself a few bucks.
In the era of social media, you need a pro tohandleyour customer base while you, the professional game designer, do your thing.
If Brad actually needs fans to vet his ideas, he's fucked. But then we're talking about a game designer whose greatest success is a game where players found the most enjoyment exploiting his mechanics and playing in a way contrary to his design: kiting, pulling, camping, etc.. I think a lot of us forget how adversarial Brad's relationship with the EQ community was at times. I don't think he's going to start listening to us now.
Gavinmad
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You're the second person to trot out that dumbass argument. Kickstarters are not donors, they are at the very least customers.