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Khane

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Spynx_sl said:
Here is a better idea.......


Make it be required AA's for level of climate access. You need 250 cold resist at least to be able to kill the ice dragon on top of the mountain... The more AA you get in cold resist..the less gear you need for cold resist etc etc. You can use a mixture of time spent in a cold zone with actual AA spent to get a desired cold resist. I think this gives a purpose and desire for AA as well as a goal to reach the top of the mountain.
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That's just another form of keying, which I don't necessarily mind, but I hope this type of encounter would be more the exception than the rule. Even the hardcore gamers in EQ got sick of key quests and those same hardcore gamers hated resist checks during vanilla WoW. There are plenty of mechanics I would like to see revisited. Unbound gear without level requirements and buffs that can be cast on anyone regardless of level are two huge ones for me. There are some mechanics I think there is an opportunity to improve. Resist checks are one of those.
 
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Bertox_sl

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I'm moderately biased, of course, it was a pretty negative experience but I made it through and have had success in the interim. I just want people to understand what they're looking at, in case they see a list of MMO designers and think they're going to be implementing core gameplay features instead of waiting around for the sole engineer to do that work.
 
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Khane_sl said:
OK, so this suggests it is more of a permanent character solution. That I don't mind. However, in your interview you made it seem like a "buff" that requires ramp up time or "acclimation" and would then degrade over time upon leaving that environment. Which is it? or is it both?

Also, is this an idea you plan on implementing as a core part of game world, or is it a stretch goal?
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My impression from the article is it could be both permanent and expiring.

I suspect the reality will come down to testing.

As a schill I will say being able to have the ability to provide feedback on potential mechanics at this stage of development is fairly unprecedented. Even when theorycrafting for announced games, development is always way ahead of the discussion.

I too would like to see more information on combat concepts and mechanics.
 
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Bertox_sl said:
As for myself, I was one of those unfortunates fired in the parking lot (still employed in MMOs though!), so I have a certain negative reaction to seeing Brad's shenanigans once again in full swing. It looks like this ill-thought-out project probably won't make it, so at least he won't be rewarded again for deceiving folks, but even people who don't know much about game design or MMO production should be able to understand production bottlenecks. With their current team of SOE/Trion castoffs and their egregious lack of technical skills (not a personal attack per se - this is a problem endemic to MMO designers), they would have no chance of producing a playable anything even WITH plenty of funding and a real game design document, which I do not believe they even have.
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Are you an engineer? You should join the Rerolled MMORPG project.
 
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Troy_Costisick_sl

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Aeiouy_sl said:
My impression from the article is it could be both permanent and expiring.

I suspect the reality will come down to testing.

As a schill I will say being able to have the ability to provide feedback on potential mechanics at this stage of development is fairly unprecedented. Even when theorycrafting for announced games, development is always way ahead of the discussion.

I too would like to see more information on combat concepts and mechanics.
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Yeah, it sounds like there are different outfits of clothing you can change into and out of AND there is a buff you accumulate over time as you acclimate to the weather.
 
Erronius

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Arctic_Slicer_sl said:
My biggest worry with the campaign failing is that if they come back in a few months to a year is that people wont actually take them seriously and will just point out again and again that their last kickstarter failed so why back this one?
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People are/were willing to ignore Vanguard and pledge if (IF!) the KS looked as if it warranted support. And if they are willing to do that then restarting a KS 'a few months to a year' later should be child's play, assuming that (again) the KS looks like it warrants support.
 
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Bertox_sl said:
There is only one person on the VR team who writes actual code. Ask ANYone who's ever worked on a small team project or a startup whether your first 11 people should look like this:

Vision guy - B. Mcquaid
Engineer - J. Weimann
Artist (concept) - J. Rochelle
Artist (props) - F. Beleno
Artist (environment) - V. Nguyen
PR guy - B. de la Durantaye
Designer - S. Grant
Designer - T. Garcia
Designer - N. Walling
Designer - C. Lefever
Designer - L. Gullo

Personality defects aside, none of these designers can write useable code for an MMO. I know this because I've worked with most of them, some directly, some indirectly.

Fwiw, it should look more like:

Vision guy/CEO (gets dat money)
Engineer (server and backend)
Engineer (tools and pipeline)
Engineer (gameplay)
Engineer (gameplay/AI)
Artist (concept and props)
Artist (props)
Artist (environment)
Designer (systems and content, must have excellent excel/scripting/writing skills)
Designer (systems and content, must have excellent excel/scripting/writing skills)
PR guy


As for myself, I was one of those unfortunates fired in the parking lot (still employed in MMOs though!), so I have a certain negative reaction to seeing Brad's shenanigans once again in full swing. It looks like this ill-thought-out project probably won't make it, so at least he won't be rewarded again for deceiving folks, but even people who don't know much about game design or MMO production should be able to understand production bottlenecks. With their current team of SOE/Trion castoffs and their egregious lack of technical skills (not a personal attack per se - this is a problem endemic to MMO designers), they would have no chance of producing a playable anything even WITH plenty of funding and a real game design document, which I do not believe they even have.
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Empathy to your vanguard employment experience. The whole fiasco was bad and I can't imagine being involved in the way you were.

One thing they did say is they have ten more people ready to jump on board if they get funded. I do not believe they have stated the skillsets of those additional people. I also have no reason to disagree with your assessment they are lacking technical people.
 
Convo

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Bertox_sl said:
I'm moderately biased, of course, it was a pretty negative experience but I made it through and have had success in the interim. I just want people to understand what they're looking at, in case they see a list of MMO designers and think they're going to be implementing core gameplay features instead of waiting around for the sole engineer to do that work.
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If this is true, I feel for you dude. I just take what you're saying with a grain of salt.. You've been here for years but never posted anything but a few random numbers. nm.. I see why now.
 
arallu

arallu

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Convo_sl said:
If this is true, I feel for you dude. I just take what you're saying with a grain of salt.. You've been here for years but never posted anything but a few random numbers.. what was that about anyway?
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Prolly to get to Screenshot forum.
 
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Spynx_sl

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It feels good to see some work being done for sure. I do have one concern though.....does it not seem a bit brown? no pun(s) intended.
 
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Frenzic

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Agonizing the Bait Master_sl said:
Save us? Motherfucker there is a reason brad came here first.... Id put hard cash down most of the backers they got are from this site and are all over 250+ dollar pledges. Get that shit out of here
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Maybe but I don't give a shit about a person's join date either. Some of these Jan 14 kids are making better post than the seasoned vets. I think it's retarded that anyone here is mocking newly joined members. Do we want the same sandy vaginas for the next 10 years? I'd like a few fresh vaginas thank you.
 
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Bertox_sl

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The numbers were to hit post requirement for Screenshots after the access was restricted
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I've lurked FoH since the olden days, before the first rumblings of the Millie revelations that sent Britney and them to Hoofshotz. I remember the Mo Of Dat Ho threads and that younger guy with the Blastoise avatar who trolled people all day. I remember when Alex turned into The Black Hand after he went to work at Blizzard.
 
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