Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
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Ben just posted this:
Ok, so it takes some time to write up a reader-friendly class description. The Dark Knight description was 4 paragraphs. How long does something like that take? And does it take 19 days to write up the Shaman class at the same level of detail?
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BilboFaggins
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I'm seriously considering starting my own kickstarter just to see how far it would go. I mean after watching this train wreck, it really makes me wonder if I could do better with NO FUCKING experience in the gaming industry at all. I'm a fan Brad, but shit man. What the fuck is going on over there. I'm not going to take my $250 away from you because I believe once you pledge, YOU PLEDGE. Taking it away is a shit move. But, man, get with it.
If I decide to do a kickstarter, I will do it like this:
Kickstarter #1: $60,000 goal to investigate the possibility of starting a niche home-brewed MMORPG company with a 10,000 mile high vision of the first MMORPG intended to be made. The main thing here is to put my idea for the first MMORPG out to the public to see if they want it, and the $60,000 would be to higher an experienced industry artist, developer, and designer.
Kickstarter #2: $200,000 goal to create a prototype of the MMORPG. This would be the point where I show the public the over all design and art direction. The idea here is to raise enough money to create an actual prototype with a single zone, a few mobs, player character to demo combat and dungeon design.
Kickstarter #3: $10,000,000 goal to create the actual MMORPG. This is where I would throw in the access to Alpha, Beta, etc to the backers.
If I decide to do a kickstarter, I will do it like this:
Kickstarter #1: $60,000 goal to investigate the possibility of starting a niche home-brewed MMORPG company with a 10,000 mile high vision of the first MMORPG intended to be made. The main thing here is to put my idea for the first MMORPG out to the public to see if they want it, and the $60,000 would be to higher an experienced industry artist, developer, and designer.
Kickstarter #2: $200,000 goal to create a prototype of the MMORPG. This would be the point where I show the public the over all design and art direction. The idea here is to raise enough money to create an actual prototype with a single zone, a few mobs, player character to demo combat and dungeon design.
Kickstarter #3: $10,000,000 goal to create the actual MMORPG. This is where I would throw in the access to Alpha, Beta, etc to the backers.
Thanks team!
My current theory is they spent 4 months collecting cans to pay for the Unity store models.
They are doing this pro bono now , just like they would have been doing this pro bono last month. Or last October since they started this in Sept. Nothing is different other than waiting till now was a moronic decision. I guess only Kickstarter experts would know this though.
I genuinely would like one of the team to explain how it did not occur to any of them to cram this shit together during Dec/early Jan at least instead of waiting until after the KS launched.
Sali literally admitted they have nothing and are posting it as soon as they are done scribbling it eventually ? Why ?
I genuinely would like one of the team to explain how it did not occur to any of them to cram this shit together during Dec/early Jan at least instead of waiting until after the KS launched.
Sali literally admitted they have nothing and are posting it as soon as they are done scribbling it eventually ? Why ?
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I was looking through Kickstarter and here are the basic guidelines.
Hardware and Product Design guidelines
Show your work- Projects must be clear about their state of development, and cannot be presented as preorders of finished products. Projects must show details (photos, videos, sketches) of their progress so far, along with a prototype demonstrating the product's current functionality. Projects must explain how the final design is likely to differ from the prototype, and include a production plan (i.e., how you're going to make it) and an estimated timeline.
No product simulations or photorealistic renderings- Technical drawings, CAD designs, sketches, and other parts of the design process are awesome and encouraged. Photorealistic renderings and simulations that could be mistaken for finished products or real events, however, are not allowed.
Single servings- Product Design and Hardware projects can only offer one reward per pledge. Offering multiple quantities can imply that rewards are shrink-wrapped and ready to ship when they?re not. With some projects, we'll make exceptions for what we consider sensible sets ? things like salt and pepper shakers, notebooks, building blocks, etc.
I am going to go ahead and file a complaint with them and see if they will take this down under fraud and false guildlines. Maybe if they get enough complains from people they will put this thing out of it's misery.
Hardware and Product Design guidelines
Show your work- Projects must be clear about their state of development, and cannot be presented as preorders of finished products. Projects must show details (photos, videos, sketches) of their progress so far, along with a prototype demonstrating the product's current functionality. Projects must explain how the final design is likely to differ from the prototype, and include a production plan (i.e., how you're going to make it) and an estimated timeline.
No product simulations or photorealistic renderings- Technical drawings, CAD designs, sketches, and other parts of the design process are awesome and encouraged. Photorealistic renderings and simulations that could be mistaken for finished products or real events, however, are not allowed.
Single servings- Product Design and Hardware projects can only offer one reward per pledge. Offering multiple quantities can imply that rewards are shrink-wrapped and ready to ship when they?re not. With some projects, we'll make exceptions for what we consider sensible sets ? things like salt and pepper shakers, notebooks, building blocks, etc.
I am going to go ahead and file a complaint with them and see if they will take this down under fraud and false guildlines. Maybe if they get enough complains from people they will put this thing out of it's misery.
zzeris
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Tad, that's your problem. Out of this whole fiasco, your biggest problem is just lore. These guys have accomplished almost nothing and you are just worried the lore is too much like D?D planar lore. I could have wrote the entire lore made so far in a few days of haphazard solo writing. The lack of design elements coupled with a general lack of any true information is the kicker. Imagine if Vu had been around to build something before two days ago? Or if some of the others guys actually were doing anything the past few months?
Grim1
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Remember, this was originally supposed to launch in November. From Brad's twitter account:
"We hope to have our kickstarter page up in the next 3 weeks or so.
7:38 PM - 31 Oct 2013"
What would the campaign have looked like if it had launched then?
tad10
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Lore matters. And I've already covered my issues with the management of the product, you must have missed those posts.
Time to Break out the Baghdad Bob shops and the leave Brittney alone parodies and get ready for the postmortem which may push it over to Hall of Shame worthy thread... Cause unless I can convince the bank that my trailer is really worth 16 times it's loan to value this thing is not getting funded.
Hateyou
Not Great, Not Terrible
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Sounds like it would of been the same? Except we would all be here now laughing?
Maybe sock puppets fighting inside a plastic he-man castle to show what the game may be like.
The sad part is, that would be more interesting than the majority of what we're seeing now ...
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Weren't you about 6 hours ago on the hype wagon telling us all to give this a chance and believe? We're an effective group if opinion has swayed so drastically.