Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

Secrets_sl said:

I must exist outside of reality, because I make the impossible happen when asked through programming *every day*

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Then you should probably make your own perfect MMO then, you'll be rich.

The entire industry falls short. It can't even make the games it made over 10 years ago. It needs a complete reboot, just Nintendo won't be here to save the day again when it comes.

It really fucking speaks volumes when a remake of Link to the Past is game of the year. Seriously.

Denaut_sl said:

Then you should probably make your own perfect MMO then, you'll be rich.

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I will, someday. And when I do, i'll quote your post.

Secrets_sl said:

I will, someday. And when I do, i'll quote your post.

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Please do.

tad10_sl said:

Yep that's the division: VG Cleric, VG BloodMage

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Awesome!!!

Big Flex_sl said:

they both are listed a knights with two-handed prowess, so I'd expect no.

I'd imagine Wizard's subclasses will have a Necro.

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Yeah, I bet the Wizard splits into Mage and Necro.

arallu_sl said:

Silius was doing some Q&A in the KS comments

@Oberon While I did not play an Enchanter in EQ, playing with a skilled enchanters was one of the greatest things to witness. We will absolutely do this class justice much like the others. Crowd control is making a comeback and the Enchanter will be at the forefront.
Sal

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This is more of what I want to hear.

Still don't think the cleric robe wearing healer seems like a bloodmage. Disciple type maybe. They had a monk type vibe and lore fits their beliefs type system.

Denaut_sl said:

Well, I didn't say the engine was garbage. I said (if I remember correctly) that the game design was iron-clad, tech be damned. So many of the problems Vanguard had were trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. A big part of making a good game is modifying your design with creative solutions for difficult technical obstacles. This wasn't done with the open world design.

TLDR; Vanguards performance issues stemmed from design decisions, not technical ones.

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I remember a beta post directly refuting that. The hitching in beta was because of excessive calls to your hard drive.

I mean you're probably right about some of it stemming from design -- but some of those issues were more along the lines a team that was simply out of their depth.

LodyR_sl said:

This Boogie guy looks a lot like an old warrior of the Prexus server: Uberwolf. Would be funny if it was actually him. Soygen prolly knows more.

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Boogie2988 is Uberwolf from Prexus.

His email is even[email protected]/* <![CDATA[ */!function(t,e,r,n,c,a,p){try{t=document.currentScript||function(){for(t=document.getElementsByTagName('script'),e=t.length;e--if(t[e].getAttribute('data-cfhash'))return t[e]}();if(t&&(c=t.previousSibling)){p=t.parentNode;if(a=c.getAttribute('data-cfemail')){for(e='',r='0x'+a.substr(0,2)|0,n=2;a.length-n;n+=2)e+='%'+('0'+('0x'+a.substr(n,2)^r).toString(16)).slice(-2);p.replaceChild(document.createTextNode(decodeURIComponent(e)),c)}p.removeChild(t)}}catch(u){}}()/* ]]> */I think

calla_sl said:

ceythos, brad, any reasons why smed wont release the vg ip?

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Companies are loathe to give IP. Look at Disney, it hasn't ever given up anything in its history, not even old props from its rides/shows from Disney World. Smart companies hold on to every original IP they get because you never know what that IP will become valuable. At least, that's the old model. My hope is the Internet will continue to chip away at this idea.

Quaid_sl said:

Boogie2988 is Uberwolf from Prexus.

His email is even[email protected]/* <![CDATA[ */!function(t,e,r,n,c,a,p){try{t=document.currentScript||function(){for(t=document.getElementsByTagName('script'),e=t.length;e--if(t[e].getAttribute('data-cfhash'))return t[e]}();if(t&&(c=t.previousSibling)){p=t.parentNode;if(a=c.getAttribute('data-cfemail')){for(e='',r='0x'+a.substr(0,2)|0,n=2;a.length-n;n+=2)e+='%'+('0'+('0x'+a.substr(n,2)^r).toString(16)).slice(-2);p.replaceChild(document.createTextNode(decodeURIComponent(e)),c)}p.removeChild(t)}}catch(u){}}()/* ]]> */I think

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Didn't whats his name "The best Paladin in the world" do all this same kind of act? Seemed pretty entertaining for 1-2 vids then ..ok....

Whatever works.

Don't see any reason why they would need a server engineer at this point. They are adding more people if the ks is funded but a server engineer at this stage?

Troy_Costisick_sl said:

Companies are loathe to give IP. Look at Disney, it hasn't ever given up anything in its history, not even old props from its rides/shows from Disney World. Smart companies hold on to every original IP they get because you never know what that IP will become valuable. At least, that's the old model. My hope is the Internet will continue to chip away at this idea.

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Why would the internet chip away at it, it isnt even about them thinking the IP is going to some day become valuable. I am sure Smed doesn't even consider that. The bottom line is you would have to be a retarded businessman to give away tech at firesale prices to potential competitors.

Once you understand that Smed views the guys running EQEmu servers, and the guys who want to revamp VG as competitors its easy to see why he politely tells them to fuck off when they ask for help.

Kickstarter has picked up about another $5k just this morning. Not bad, especially for a Saturday which is usually a slower day for Kickstarters.

Troy_Costisick_sl said:

Kickstarter has picked up about another $5k just this morning. Not bad, especially for a Saturday which is usually a slower day for Kickstarters.

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Like I said, 1% of boogie's subscribers pledging $35 meets the $800,000 goal.

Jimbolini_sl said:

Didn't whats his name "The best Paladin in the world" do all this same kind of act? Seemed pretty entertaining for 1-2 vids then ..ok....

Whatever works.

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Athene! Best troll in the world....


He recently raised millions for children's charity and was in forbes:http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertco...rs-for-africa/

Kaljin_sl said:

Athene! Best troll in the world....


He recently raised millions for children's charity and was in forbes:http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertco...rs-for-africa/

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Yea..that guy! Seems like a solid guy I am guessing, his Diablo 3 vids were pretty funny.

Is is possible? Will all the stars align perfectly and make the game a reality? I hope so

Tauro_sl said:

Is is possible? Will all the stars align perfectly and make the game a reality? I hope so

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They have certainly improved both their page and their PR strategy. They have already raised over $5k today and we're still in the early hours of the morning; if this trend continues we're probably looking at getting at least $15-20k today; maybe more if they can release some good updates or interviews today. Currently I'm very optimistic but we'll see how things for over the next 4 weeks.