Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO
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Big Flex
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dont worry, should this pay off, years from now brad will recount the savvy social media blitz he both crafted and executed single handedly to really put the kick in kickstarter, then permaban you.My idea, but who's counting
I'm just glad the kickstarter is going again, really.
Following this thread while playing EQ1 with Felwithe music going on in the background makes me want to do dumb things.
Big Flex
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like.. kill yourself or blow more than you should on a ks pledge?
i know you want the game sooner, but trust me, if you kill yourself now you won't rise again as a hero on terminus.
Emotiv
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Chose against writing something that sounded more like a brag than pride. Ah wellI saw it before the edit.
Mr Creed
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There really isnt a fantasy MMO where you are just a scrub making his way in the world any more, where a huge obstacle is an ogre warlord or evil wizard threatening one village. Current EQ1/2 are all about epic dragon time travel alternate universes, WoW is about averting the end of the world every patch, same with GW2. Rift has the same "you are an hero" background we have in TESO or apparently here.
I liked that less overpowered setting, i.e. classic EQ/Kunark. Even Velious didnt feature any world-ending lore except the one that was under control and caused by the players, the Sleeper. PoP and beyond on the other hand, same deal as WoW.
While I'd love to return as Batman, I was talking about knocking it up a tier. Holding strong though. There's positive buzz but still need to see more.
He didn't tell me much, and that which he did tell me I'm not at liberty to talk about. But at this point nothing from Vanguard is obtainable.
They could release the code to the public, would create some serious goodwill for SOE. Not sure why they would keep sitting on that IP but there may be all sorts of legal issues.
There are people out there that could work wonders with that code (not me).
There are people out there that could work wonders with that code (not me).
Mr Creed
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I dont know disciples but it sounds meh. Hoping for a WAR warrior priest for the plate version.
Silius(I think) has been answening questions in the Kickstarter comments so I asked him about AAs.
Arctic_Slicer_sl said:
So there you go they are planning on having AAs in Pantheon.Visionary Realms_sl said:
Flipmode
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Vanguards engine isn't fixable. No amount of resources could fix it. The engine is garbage.
This about sums it up. The biggest mistake with Vanguard was using the Unreal engine. If he used a better engine Vanguard probably would have been the game it was envisioned to be.
Wait... Vanguard uses the Unreal engine?
This is news to me.
edit: just googled it. Unreal Engine 2 was used. Man that's some APB-era garbage. No wonder it had performance issues.
Denaut
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I haven't really posted in this thread because I am a bit torn. I lead an amazing life and I have Sigil to thank for most of that. It is extremely uncouth to be negative and talk bad about the place that gave you your start, biting the hand that feeds you and all that. So I am just going to say this once.
Brad is completely incapable of delivering a good game, and unlikely to deliver one at all.
One look at the Visionary Realms team list tells me that he didn't learn any lessons from Vanguard and is repeating his past mistakes. It is nothing about the individual people that make up the team, but the skill-set he assembled at such a critical early juncture. It consists of:
Engineer - 1
Designers - 5
Artists - 3
Production/Marketing - 2
This tells me all I need to know about how little he has learned. In pre-production you want 1 good designer. You also want several engineers to start working on the technical foundation for your game. You don't need 5 designers to push paper around, because that doesn't matter at this point. 1 good designer can feed several engineers and artists, 5 designers feeding one engineer means they spend most of their time arguing or sitting on their thumb. You need those designers later tomakecontent, once production begins.
In fact, having 1 good designer is orders of magnitude better than 5 good designers this early. Too many cooks spoil the stew, and this couldn't be more true for game design.
As a caveat, it is possible those designers are relatively capable C# scripters that can handle much of the client side work, but their bios read more to me like traditional design. At the veryleast, making an MMO with Unity, you'd need 2 engineers. One client and one server.
I know this doesn't matter to most of the people here, but I thought I'd say it anyway. I am not going to go all crazy spouting hate, because it is pointless and not who I am. I would just rather see Kickstarter money go to young developers that are hungry to create the next big thing. Yea, it is a risk, but at least there is a chance, and new blood in the industry is something sorely needed.
Brad is completely incapable of delivering a good game, and unlikely to deliver one at all.
One look at the Visionary Realms team list tells me that he didn't learn any lessons from Vanguard and is repeating his past mistakes. It is nothing about the individual people that make up the team, but the skill-set he assembled at such a critical early juncture. It consists of:
Engineer - 1
Designers - 5
Artists - 3
Production/Marketing - 2
This tells me all I need to know about how little he has learned. In pre-production you want 1 good designer. You also want several engineers to start working on the technical foundation for your game. You don't need 5 designers to push paper around, because that doesn't matter at this point. 1 good designer can feed several engineers and artists, 5 designers feeding one engineer means they spend most of their time arguing or sitting on their thumb. You need those designers later tomakecontent, once production begins.
In fact, having 1 good designer is orders of magnitude better than 5 good designers this early. Too many cooks spoil the stew, and this couldn't be more true for game design.
As a caveat, it is possible those designers are relatively capable C# scripters that can handle much of the client side work, but their bios read more to me like traditional design. At the veryleast, making an MMO with Unity, you'd need 2 engineers. One client and one server.
I know this doesn't matter to most of the people here, but I thought I'd say it anyway. I am not going to go all crazy spouting hate, because it is pointless and not who I am. I would just rather see Kickstarter money go to young developers that are hungry to create the next big thing. Yea, it is a risk, but at least there is a chance, and new blood in the industry is something sorely needed.