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It's easy to be the best movie when there was only one movie in the theater.
Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO
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Guest, did you like the last podcast notification?? Well here's the second one, and for the third podcast! Yep. This Thursday 8-8-24 at 7pm Central
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Muligan
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That's nothing to joke about... I'm a Hulkamaniac from way back.. Maybe Hogan can fund a MMO.
iannis
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Schadenfreude. Which is pretty much what this thread has been about since the first post!
Oh, and EQ in a browser. Make that happen Brad. Tyen has already done most of the work, you can steal it off him and sell it. Just like the good old days!
Drakurii
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Pantheon is actually a new erectile dysfunction tablet and Rise of the Fallen is their slogan.
Guys come on , tell your friends and post it on all the forums about the KS , give Brad (another) chance, we can still do this , if every backer would double their pledge it will fund, if you don't support Brad you don't like PC gaming.
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Still bro, even if it was the only movie to see you would not go back and re-watch it for 5 yrs if it sucked that bad. And besides it wasn't the only one. There was UO, AC and soon to follow there was AO, DAOC...etc... Not to mention the plethora of great single player games at that time.
Sad to say but if you played what you say is a shitty game for years, the jokes on you. Not on us which enjoyed it.
shabushabu
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Its ok to sit on the sidelines and let others carry the early torch... you don't have to buy in fully if you are not and I agree its not all about EQ direct copy or GTFO. Let it evolve... Its an idea at this point, which is having a funding struggle pretty damn early. However, given they got to 400k and the tiers and KS was a blown opportunity i have to believe there is still a chance and i am willing to donate something to get this thing off the ground even if KS goes by-by and there is another way forums or other.. Not everyone is, i am fed up enough with the ideas in the MMO space that this one, is good enough for 50 bucks even with the KS fail.
Some like you need more than just this idea to put $ down and there is nothing wrong with that ( see above i am just really fed up LOL) and by all normalcy you are well justified in not buying in. That said, I think we can all work together, if in the least to get the problems fleshed out with the KS for brad or someone else to do it again, perhaps another game ? etc ?
I think the one thing that many agree on is, theBADWoW clone parade = MMOs over and that more than anything should have some of us who differ in risk taking etc... to at least see what we can accomplish.
If anyone a developer or someone takes a risk to buck this trend and until it happens I hope people keep throwing spaghetti at wall at the problem, at some point one may stick and we may have an MMO to play long term again.
@ Convo, i agree its not all brad or nothing there may be other ways to do this, VG EMU ? meh, who knows could we as a community get off our asses and build something ? etc.
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Slow down there chief. I never said EQ sucked, but at the same time I don't pretend every game since then has been terrible. I enjoyed a few MMO's through the years and there are aspects of each that tend to do better than others. If only a team would steal the best ideas from all games and toss them into one.
But the point still remains, EQ while being a good game for it's time, A. Didn't have much to compete with and B. Had plenty of flaws of it's own that people here love to overlook.
i'm not overlooking anything. i loved EQ, DESPITE its many flaws. i never claimed it was a perfect game. believe me, i was a wizard as my main in EQ and i did plenty of complaining in my time (our mana regen sucked, our DPS wasn't on par with other classes like rogues who didn't have to med, staring at a spell book to med till level 35, having practically no items in the game whatsoever that made any difference in improving your abilities except mana stone, being pretty much a glorified taxi, etc.). still, i loved the game. i couldn't wait to log in every day, and i hated to log off every night. i made life long friends and have really nothing but fond memories of my time playing that game. i'm sorry, but if you're going to come here and say that EQ sucked (and i'm not talking about you directly, boozecube) and preface that by saying that you played for a few years then you're either A) lying or B) a fucking retard.
Ambiturner
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Do some people not realize wtf nostalgia is? It came out 15 years ago, and while it was great for 1999 it's dogshit today. It's filled with shitty design based around dial up modems and Pentium 2s. If you think that's worthy of spending years of your life playing today then go hog wild and donating everything you have to this sweet KS
popsicledeath
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Yeah, so is a KS if handled correctly. So is MS giving you 40 million if handled correctly. So is going to a private investor or publisher if handled correctly. I'm starting to think the problem never was the vehicle, but the 'handled correctly' part of the equation.
Cinge
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Pretty much. At this point I'd be wary to give any money to something brad is in charge of before I got my hands on it. Can no longer bank on ideas, design and words.
popsicledeath
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This is the exact stage you want to show some level of professionalism and competence! Not: Hey, I have an idea, all I need is some cash so I can start executing BLUNDER BLUNDER BLUNDER! Wait, come back, I have an idea like everyone else in the fucking world!
Literally, at this point, they're no better off than some of the theorycrafters on this forum having an idea. The difference is some of the ideas here are at least well thought out and the people wouldn't launch a KS asking for nearly a million dollars without some semblance of a plan or at least some competence to get shit together and not look like idiots.
When there is no guarantee to a project you're donating to is exactly the time they need to show some fucking competence and class. You don't just bank on 'hey, we're not experts at anything really' and 'no guarantees, right guys!' and hope people don't pull their fucking pledge. Seriously, you're arguing that there are no guarantees, as if that means they should try to make it seem like they have no ability to not then cash in and prove you weren't guaranteed a thing? Really?
First date, no guarantees, right guys, I guess I should probably show up late, have no money, and wear the same fucking shirt for a month of videos! No guarantees, right guys!
popsicledeath
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They can, because they claim people were asking/begging for the option, and they were simply giving the fans what they wanted. Enter every slippery slope argument ever, as the devs should be the responsible parental figures in all this, not just caving to try to look cool or be the popular parent. No surprise, though, as part of professionalism is anticipating shit so it's not an utter surprise, as well as learning to take a hard line and not let people be taken advantage of for your sake, as in the end it comes back on you anyhow.
popsicledeath
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It's that strange situation where he's the only one pursuing this sort of game, in part because he's made it seem to everyone else that it's not worth pursing. If he can't do it, nobody can, because nobody will, because he keeps fucking it up to the point he's the only one willing to keep doing it, and if he can't do it, nobody can, because nobody will, because he keeps fucking it up to the point he's the only one willing to keep doing it, and if he can't do it....
