shabushabu
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FF ? Wilstar ? TESO ? are those primarily grouping games or solo games ? ( not tried em )
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That whole exchange started when I pointed out to Dayna that Popsicledeath has some valid points and that repeatedly calling him "Poopsickle" wasn't helping his arguments and only made himself look like the jerk. Of course by doing this Dayna goes all apeshit on me for agreeing with popsicledeath and starts accusing me of being a $1 pledge troll and uses the fact that I'm not a gold name member of the forums to support his claim that I'm just a troll. It was fucking ridiculous. For the record I have been pledged at $855(600+255) since they revealed the add-ons on January 29 and have no plans to pull my pledge.
shabushabu
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There is a bit too much crazy around this thing that is not getting funded... there have been a lot of vocal people around that want this to fail for whatever reason and it has made supporters sensitive... one negative and you get jumped on. The funny thing is, look at the thread count and views. God only knows how the scam talk hurt the kickstarter. I don't get why if you don't want to participate in something, you have to try to make it burn... and for some reason this title its amplified and ridiculous.
I just hope that some knucklehead controlling a lot of money sees the thread counts here on rerolled... Its unbelievable how much discussion this KS has caused... good and bad. You have to imagine there is money to be made there
shabushabu
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Laugh at the KS, i have no problem with. It was horribly done period. But there is quite a bit more being said out there around numbers interested, dollars raised is indicative of a lack of demand... I am putting this intelligently but the vitriol has been ridiculous. There is blind optimism abound for sure, but I venture it is because people WANT to play a game like eq/VG and there is no fucking hope of one on the horizon. If i wanted to play a wow clone, or solo MMO there are 3-4 out every year since 07.... A VG/EQ type game where grouping is the game ? 0
Fuck maybe they are just stirring up demand for WoW 2, the way the industry is going before you know it WoW fans will be in the boat this group is in.
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Yep. Pulled my pledge. A new "old school" mmo will happen - eventually - but it won't be coming from this crew.
Brad did not learn the key lesson of Vanguard. He is not a good project manager and should stick to design.
shabushabu
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I honestly wouldn't mind seeing a team come out of Turbine's layoffs. When WB bought Turbine it has been downhill ever since, maybe a new company, new funding and something older school ? Who knows.
I would even dig a lobby game with a great and deep group experience... I may put some hope in Shadowrun Online or MP or something, that could be interesting.. Just looking for grouping, lots of grouping and complexity at this point.
Didn't you hear, he has learned his lessons and can be a CEO , now saying that he's not going to be the CEO , maybe , as soon as they get money for a CEO salary , then he won't be CEO anymore , but until then he is, and he can be good at it. He said so.
Also Artic I fully believe you were in for the 855, still are, and are anything but a hater of the game. I've seen some of your posts on the new site as it was up and down , and honestly if every "fan" of the game was more like you and Convo I'd give it a much better shot of maybe at least putting out a half assed product that maybe could be saved.
My thoughts are though Brad and Co seem to want the completely delusional in the private forums to be ready to cheer at any idea they put out. I think you,Convo and the few other like you will become the "Rerolled Haters" on the private site (assuming any of you pay and sub) and will be shouted and screamed out in a circle jerk by 95% of the posters there.
That really does show how vile those forums are going to become. I'll bet you pledged more then most of them, but because you don't have a orange name you will get dismissed the second you voice some concerns. What a fucking joke. It is a shame too because someone like you who has remained sane, and loyal at the same time is the type of person that Brad could get decent feedback from. They will run people like you off eventually though because you are not a "true believer".
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I'll try to explain this as simple as possible.
If Kickstarter says you set a goal for backers and if you don't reach that goal, you don't get funding, it's extremely unethical(hence why it's against Kickstarter's rules) for the person who is running the project to suddenly donate the difference to get their hands on the backers' money. You're pledging with the understanding that the project will get enoughoutside interestto fund it. If it does not get that level of interest, the project does not get anything. If you only needed 300,000 for your project, don't set the goal to 800,000. Etc.
shabushabu
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Wait what ? Did I miss something ? I thought that if KS does not fund, your money is returned. I was under the impression this thing is not getting funded... I have been busy with work, did Brad say he is covering the rest ?
The bigger question however is; does kickstarter investigate campaigns that suddenly get some large backers in the very end from "angel investors" or do they just quietly take their cut of the profits?
Shabushabu, if it doesn't reach $800,000 nobody is charged anything.
You didn't miss anything. It was a concern that has been brought up a few times. Basically "What if Brad was able to put together that last $400k to secure the funds currently pledged". It is against KS rules to do so because it is extremely unethical. File me under the people who think if he is capable of doing just that though.
Surely , surely Brad is not stupid enough to spike this thing by almost half it's total of 400k the last two days and garner even more bad press and suspicion ?
/looks at kickstarter history
On second though I guess there is a chance.
/looks at kickstarter history
On second though I guess there is a chance.
shabushabu
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So let me explain something to you.. you don't know how KS works and/or you are spreading bullshit. Did Brad go on record saying he is going to cover this ? This is what i mean... you are taking this too far and hurting possible future pledges... You are making up a scenario in your head and stating it as fact.
And you wonder why people on the supporting side of this are pissed.. He is the example. If Brad is doing that, I retract my statement but LoneRanger confirmed, it did not happen ?
It seems really easy to do honestly. Make some promises about returning funds immediately and you could get some rich friends to donate with no risk to themselves. Brad doesn't have to have the money himself, just know someone who trusts him enough to return their donation after he has secured the $400k.
Where did he state anything as a fact? Jesus, you wonder why people label you guys as psychotic fanboys?
I've always been of the suspicion that stuff like this happens fairly often since I can find no kickstarter that failed just barely; but I can find several that barely funded at 100%. I suspect that Kickstarter really doesn't care so long as the thing gets funded and they get their cut of the profits.
shabushabu
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I don't get what makes you think that brad is trying to do anything other than build a game. What evidence do you have ?