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Tarrant

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Thanks guys, I appreciate the kind words.

As for the ex...I dunno, she's not a bad person, she is however very busy. After her affair she stayed with the guy she cheated on me with and got pregnant with twins. They are both 5 years old now and she works full time and her boyfriend does little to help around the house. I've watched that guy mature from a worthless sack of meat who couldn't keep down a job to at least growing up and becoming somewhat responsible in terms of helping provide for their family...but he does jack and shit around their house so my ex does it all at home. I sympathize with her to an extent but on that same token, her overwhelming schedule is due to her own decisions and no aspect of my kids well being should suffer for it. She sees the issues and talks a big game on the subject of change but when it comes time to act...nothing gets done and things backslide into shifting blame, in this instance the school and they give out way to much homework and it's their fault.

The texts I get from the teacher, along with a small group of other parents aren't even a big deal nor time consuming but I appreciate it so much that she's willing to go that extra mile, I feel you don't see that much anymore so it's great to have that resource available when things take a turn in this direction. Here's an example of the texts.

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Nothing ground breaking, but every resource adds up.

My oldest son is a model kid, he struggled with something similar to this but he actually did have a shitty teacher who was put on leave after it was proven she treated all the boys in her class as almost a subrace of humans. I found this out again by taking an active role and driving up there a few times to meet with her, the principal and eventually the administration. When I was in 1st grade I had a bad experience with a teacher who would tie us to seats with jump ropes, duct tape our mouths shut, throw our desks across the room if they were dirty and I was terrified of him, I developed a bad outlook of school from then on that stayed with me until I met another great teacher in high school that showed me some great things and helped me take responsibility for my self and take pride in my work.

My son was also in that same boat and was having hard time and he had a terrible attitude about school for a year or two but we worked on it and now he's good. I hope to instill the same responsibilities with my daughter and then my youngest. This shits hard but when I look at the young adult my 13 year old is turning into, I know it's worth it.

/endcheesypost
 

Joeboo

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2 year old logic:

Kids throws a fit at dinner, won't eat so we ask him what's wrong.

He replies "go outside?"

I say that he can't go outside because it's dark outside and we can't see and we'll get lost

He replies "Put a jacket on?"

I don't even know how to reply to that lol
 

Noodleface

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My mother ignored our schooling, I did homework by myself form grade 1 through college just because I wanted to do good. If I was any other kid I probably would've just failed. Parents never cared.
 

Falstaff

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2 year old logic:

Kids throws a fit at dinner, won't eat so we ask him what's wrong.

He replies "go outside?"

I say that he can't go outside because it's dark outside and we can't see and we'll get lost

He replies "Put a jacket on?"

I don't even know how to reply to that lol
My two year old did the same thing today... like 45, raining, super windy in Chicago today. I said " you can't go outside, it's too cold and rainy and windy" and she looked up at me and said, "put on shoes? then go outside?"
 
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Getting back to cad's question. Why not have them do something that earns some decent money but doesn't involve a huge time sink. I was a caddy starting in eighth grade and did it through highschool. It started as a Saturday only job doing two rounds which earned forty (20 a loop) plus whatever they tipped. When was a senior I did it Saturday and Sunday two rounds a day during the school year and was making 40 a round plus tip. Granted this was a decent private club but you should be familiar with a couple in your area.

Was making a couple hundred a weekend or more with good tips for minimum time investment. Allowed me to learn the value of having a commitment while still letting my focus be on athletics and school stuff. Parents made me pay car insurances, and any entertainment that they weren't a part of.

If they can't handle six to twelve hours of work on the weekends and make that top ten percent then I don't think they would make it anyway. Money was great for my age and the time period (97-01). the connections I made were even better. Even got some scholarship money from the club.
 

Draegan_sl

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Cad is gearing up his kids to be those 24 year olds who never paid a bill in their life and when they finally do get some kind of job, spend all their money at the bar and on stuff. They'll always be broke.

Part of any kids education is getting a job and learning how hard it is to earn a buck.
 

Agraza

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Could do that with investments too. You want money? Invest wisely and decide if/when to spend the profits. Flipping burgers is mostly good for learning to take shit, not learning to handle money. What money?
 

Khane

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Cad is gearing up his kids to be those 24 year olds who never paid a bill in their life and when they finally do get some kind of job, spend all their money at the bar and on stuff. They'll always be broke.

Part of any kids education is getting a job and learning how hard it is to earn a buck.
Uhh, that's exactly what he's trying to prevent...
 

Draegan_sl

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I know, and in my opinion, not making them get a job is doing that. They don't need a full time job or even a job during the school year; summer jobs are great. Best job you can have a kid get is something in a restaurant because it gives them a lot of skills:

A) Dealing with the public, working with people
B) Working on a team
C) Make pretty good money
D) Great social interaction with kids their own age

Might be a bit young for some parents at 15/16 (bus boy/foodrunner etc), but working at an ice cream shop, pizza joint or something like that during the summer is the same thing for the most part.
 

Tuco

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Optimal path depends on kid.

Some kids need to go through a period of being self-sufficient so they realize they don't wnat to work construction/wendy's for the rest of their life. Other kids are happy to work hard at their education until they can get the job they want.

My plan is to do what my parents did for me. Good progress in school: free room in board. Bad/No progress in school: rent or gtfo.
 

Tenks

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I think if you don't want them to get a job a very strict allowance helps them understand the value of money. I did get a summer job at 15 but before that the only money I ever got from my parents was via household chores. So anything I wanted (toys, candy, etc) I had to buy with my allowance money. There wasn't any "I want this!" and they'd just buy it. It also wasn't a ton of money like $20/mo.
 

Tarrant

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My parents had a thing where if you were in school post high school you were there expense free, if not you were expected to pitch in. Not a lot, but pick up break and milk and odds and ends when asked and to help around the house. You were also allowed to move back in once after moving out (unless school related). They wanted to teach you they were there for you but they weren't a constant safety net. Looking back on that, I'll probably do the same with my own.

Once they get their car at 16, I'll expect them to work part time as well and help them learn how to prioritize things and balance their lives out properly so they have time for whatever.

In terms of allowance I was given one when I was a kid, I was expected to bank half of it and do whatever I wanted with the other half. I ended up saving it most of the time anyway. My ex doesn't give my kids an allowance but when they are down here with me, I do. They help out around the place, my oldest does it most of the time without even being asked. I'll take them over to the inlaws and we'll help my father in law do yard work or whatever too and they know they'll get paid. I have the same rule for them, half is banked, the other half is theirs to do whatever with.
 

Falstaff

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ha, no shit. We put our daughter into a big girl bed about 3 months ago, right after she turned two, and the transition from the crib to the bed was flawless. The best part was she wouldn't even get out of bed on her own, just sit and wait/call for us to come get her.

that all changed two days ago when she came into our room at 5 in the morning asking to see the baby. Luckily she still struggles to open our doors so we could just close the door (we usually leave it cracked open a bit) but then she'll just cry for us to come get her anyways.
 

iannis

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let it be known I went searching for one of those full body latex suits where you turn a person into furniture and I could not find a single image which was not extremely pornographic.

just tryin to be helpful.