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lurkingdirk

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You might want to be cautious saying 'AS MUCH orajel as you want'. There are indeed dangers of Orajel, or rather one of the active ingredients, benzocaine. There are lawsuits in the states going on, and it is not recommended for children under age 2 without consulting a physician. You might not want to give medical advice based on 'doctor friends'. Advice for your kid does not translate to other patients, children - you don't know their medical history, current medication etc etc.

http://www.fda.gov/%20drugs/drugsafety/ucm250024.htm
Here is a lawfirm profiting from this:
http://www.thepharmalawyer.com/Dange...nzocaine-.aspx
Also, alcohol for children? Really? How about something that doesn't traverse the blood brain barrier?
A couple of things:
1. my information is current, and I got it from three people who are certified doctors who deal with children's health every day. I'm going to go ahead and take their advice, if that's fine with you. As you said, not recommended without consulting a physician. I did. Three of them. They all said exactly the same thing.
2. if you didn't get that I wasn't advocating alcohol for the child, but recommending the parent to have a drink, you can't be terribly smart. Perhaps you should drink less?
 

Izo

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A couple of things:
1. my information is current, and I got it from three people who are certified doctors who deal with children's health every day. I'm going to go ahead and take their advice, if that's fine with you. As you said, not recommended without consulting a physician. I did. Three of them. They all said exactly the same thing.
2. if you didn't get that I wasn't advocating alcohol for the child, but recommending the parent to have a drink, you can't be terribly smart. Perhaps you should drink less?
1) I don't think you understand how evidence based medicine works. FDA > 3 doctors. Passing this 'recommendation' on is not really how medicine works. Those doctors would know this, if they do indeed work with children. What do you mean your info is 'current'? Current from the physician you talked to, or current from the collected database and control organ, FDA, whom doctors rely on to give advice? I think the answer here is 'you don't know'. Why would you try to argue your info is better than the FDA? That just seems silly.
Also, there is a huge difference in ordination for mild to moderate tooth aching, to severe. They'd know this too. You don't seem to - or at least you give advice, medical advice, without the distinction. Again, the proper advice would be: 'See your physician', not 'my physician says <insert medical advice>, so you can too'.

2) I'll let your words speak for themselves:
"I also know someone who rubbed bourbon on the gums of their teething child. While I'd never recommend such a thing, they had excellent results. Get some bourbon. For yourself, if not for the child."

Anyway, why gamble when there are known risks? They are rare, granted, but still mentioned. Is your child's health not worth some nights sleep? I'd recommend staying away from benzocaine for children, if possible, use cold teething rings when able.

EDIT:
Here is the link to the current medical database for approved drugs where I live - and this is indeed the very same warning regarding benzocaine and children - specifically for teething.
http://pro.medicin.dk/Generelt/Nyheder/52
I'm sure you can use google translate like anyone else. Or use the link I gave you from the FDA.
http://www.fda.gov/%20drugs/drugsafety/ucm250024.htm
 

Izo

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You're not a terribly pleasant person. But that's okay. I'm sure you're correct.
I don't claim to know better than the FDA, but thanks. I do value altruism above being compliant, true - all subsets ofagreeableness. I'll work on it, good sir
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Have a great weekend, and may you all find sleep when you can
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Any of you have experience with newborns that have reflux issues? Every time we feed our baby, we hold him upright for a good 30-60 minutes after feedings(which really sucks in the middle of the night), but there's still a good 50% chance(if not more) that he's going to absolutely scream his head off when we lay him down flat on his back in bed. Spits up a ton, and I assume it's burning his throat too, making him scream/cry.

The doctors tell us he should grow out of it within a few months(this is very common in preemies), but I was hoping to find a quicker solution so that one of us doesn't have to basically be up with him all night. It's doable now, but when my wife goes back to work in a month, it's going to really suck if this is still going on.

We've considered just letting him sleep in his bouncy seat, as that keeps him at about a 45-degree angle or so, enough to cut down on the reflux drastically, but my wife is paranoid about him getting used to sleeping in that, and not his crib. I'm arguing that him getting comfortable sleeping in his bouncy seat is better than him having to sleep while we hold him upright, if you have to choose one.

Anyone have any ideas/suggestions?
no direct experience but all my friends whose kids have had reflux found that having the kid sleep in the rock n play to be a godsend. (sleeping on an incline).

You will have to get him used to sleeping flat later but such is life.
 

Kedwyn

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How many ounces are you feeding him? How old is he? How much does he weigh? Breast or bottle? Formula or mommy milk?

If mommy milk what is her diet, any spicy or greasy food?

formula what brand?

Many parents over feed their kids. Their stomachs are tiny. If he is only on the boob then you might have no clue how much they eat but contrary to lactation people humans do like to over eat. Hell plenty of kids will even under eat especially if they are sleepers so no nature doesn't just take care of itself perfectly without intervention.
 

Ronaan

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re: teething

Marie had a really hard time teething, not because of the tooth itself mainly but what really rustled her jimmies was that her private parts looked like a pavian's ass during those times. Lots and lots of Penaten cream. Getting her cleaned up from the poop really sucks in those situations, heartbreaking wails :-(

Also did the gel and some homeopathy. Seemed to work. Can't say how bad it would have been without interaction though.
She got a molar over the weekend ... had a few nights where she didn't sleep through, plus the mentioned burning crotch, but all in all she handled it well.

Yesterday was her 1st birthday. Man, time flies.
 

Izo

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That sounds rough, mate. Glad your kid survived it - and you too
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Speaking of survive, I wish you'd stop feeding your child homeopathic concoctions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy_sl said:
Scientific research has repeatedly found homeopathic remedies ineffective and their postulated mechanisms of action implausible.[10][11][12][13] The scientific community regards homeopathy as a sham;[14] the American Medical Association considers homeopathy to be quackery,[15][16] and homeopathic remedies have been criticized as unethical.[17]
Correlation does not equal causation, eh? Samuel Hahnemann lived before the dawn of penicillin, microbiology and biochemistry. Germans - and French people too, sigh
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A rough treatment regime from our NICU - Sore and red bottoms - bordering penetration:
Change diapers often, as soon as they're contaminated. The less time feces and urine stay in contact with the skin, the better. Lots and lots of air to the affected area, no diaper for periods is good. Make sure you don't use baby wipes in this situation. Especially those with alcohol are a no-no, always. Use water, not soap, preferably on cotton. Creme type depends on whether there is blood, skin penetration, or not. In mild to moderate cases use your creme brand or zink creme. In severe cases with no skin penetration you can use an over the counter creme with corticosteroids. It's important corticosteroids does not reach systemic circulation, naturally.
Complications include inflammation and fungal attacks. Blister with pus, small pimple like, it is most likely bacterial in nature and the creme used should have anti bacterial properties. Fungal is harder to detect, but usually a physician can spot it. Both types are prescription drugs where I live anyway.

G'luck and may your sleep be forever uninterrupted
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Joeboo

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How many ounces are you feeding him? How old is he? How much does he weigh? Breast or bottle? Formula or mommy milk?.
Our baby is technically almost 3 months old, but he was born 10 weeks premature, so developmentally if he were born on time, he'd only be about 2 weeks old right now, he's been home from the hospital for about 4 weeks now. His last weigh-in with a home health nurse was 6lbs 6oz, but that was 2 weeks ago, they don't come anymore and we haven't had a Dr. visit since, so if I had to guess, probably a pound more than that, somewhere around 7.5 lbs.

We've been feeding him 50ml(little under 2 oz) when we bottle feed him, which is only twice a day, just so we can give him his liquid vitamin and he gets a human milk fortifier that adds 4 calories per 25ml of fluid, to help with weight gain since he's so small. He eats every 3 hours, we still have him on his hospital schedule, so that makes 6 breast feedings per day, and 2 bottle feedings with pumped breast milk.


If mommy milk what is her diet, any spicy or greasy food?
We've tried all sorts of stuff there. We have 2 months worth of colostrum & milk stored in our freezer from when mom was pumping and the child wasn't eating anywhere near the amount she pumped while he was in the hospital, and obviously now he gets fresh milk at least 6 times a day, but we've run the gamut of eating normally(we do eat a lot of spicy food), to eating on a strict, bland, high-protein diet(lot of grilled chicken breasts), and none of it seemed to matter much.


Many parents over feed their kids. Their stomachs are tiny. If he is only on the boob then you might have no clue how much they eat but contrary to lactation people humans do like to over eat. Hell plenty of kids will even under eat especially if they are sleepers so no nature doesn't just take care of itself perfectly without intervention.
As of right now, I think we are going to try forsaking the Dr. orders to wake him every 3 hours to eat, even if he's sleeping(they're concerned with weight gain, he's so small for his age he isn't even in a percentile on their charts(so I guess, <1%). He was born at 2.5lbs. What happens now is that he generally sleeps pretty well at either his 7PM feeding, or his 10PM feeding, but then once we wake him up for the 1am feeding, he never sleeps another full hour for the rest of the night, even after the 4am and 7am feedings. He just stays up and cries all night if he's laying in his crib. I think if he's sleeping soundly after the 7/10 feeding, we're just going to let him go to see how long he sleeps. Age-wise, since he's almost 3 months he *could* start sleeping a lot longer at night, but developmentally he's still a newborn if you go by his gestation age, so it's hard to tell where he's at exactly.

We generally feed him, then hold him upright for 30-45 minutes before we put him down, but it often doesn't help with his reflux. Generally when he starts screaming, we come in and the whole side of his head is covered in milk and his sheet is soaked, he's spit up a TON. He's actually almost choked a few times, but luckily we've caught it. About 4 or 5 times now he's spit up so bad that the milk even comes out his nose and he chokes/can't breathe. We have to rush in, pick him up, flip him over, and pat him on the back while he's held face-down until air starts to flow again. This REALLY pisses him off/scares him, and he generally won't sleep again for hours, he's wide awake at that point.

My wife goes back to work in 3 weeks. Right now she's up with him all night from about 2am onward, but that won't be doable here shortly, we need to figure something out or we're both looking at being constantly exhausted.
 

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The weird thing is, he's perfectly happy from 7AM - 7PM, and sleeps pretty decently in spurts throughout the day. He's just a total hellraiser from 1am - 7am unfortunately, but in general he's a pretty happy baby
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Falstaff

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Ours is the same way. She sleeps great during the day for like 3 hours at a time, wakes up and eats, but at about 2 in the morning she is ready to start her day for the next 5 hours.
 

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My youngest no matter what time I put him to bed wakes up at 6:30 like clock work. I could put him to bed at 7pm midnight and he wakes up at that time and I can put him to bed at midnight and he wakes up at that time.

Of all the sleep issues to have this is an awesome one compared to 99.9% of others but it's been just over 10 years since I've been able to sleep past 6:30am on a day off and I wish that time would hurry up and get here.
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Also, very cute kid you have there joeboo!
 

lurkingdirk

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My 5 year old son officially got the hang of a two wheeled bike today.

That is all. I rather enjoy seeing landmarks like this.
 

chaos

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We are having serious issues with bedtime with my two oldest girls now. They share a bed and it is frustrating as fuck trying to get them to go to bed because they feed each other's energy. We did that whole Supernanny thing when they were each in their own room, but now that they share a room that shit doesn't work, they think it's a game. Idk, working on it.

Am I the only one who forces my kids to watch shows just so I can watch them? I forced them to watch Yo Gabba Gabba and now Aquabats, those shows are awesome.