Path of Exile 2

Xevy said:

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Something is making me think Gemling Legionnaire may be OP with those extra skill gems.

Getting a jack of all trades vibe from it.

Borzak said:

Just me or does it seem like minion stuff gets 5 times as many jewels than anything else combined. I know it's RNG but seemed like every jewel I picked up early on had minion something on it, or more than one.

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It's RNG. If you ever want minion stuff it will be nowhere to be found.

Edit: Playing D2R has made me realize that games with no minion AI are garbage.

Fogel said:

Can see a lot more synergy here especially when grouping. There's a fire channeling skill called volcano that creates a volcano that shoots fireballs while channeling but will shoot even more when hit by slam skills, so good pairing for a fire mage and someone spec'd in slams.

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thats really interesting and something I hadn't quite noticed. but yeah. firewall, volcano, etc. lots of skills have stuff that would buff OTHER players. and thats really interesting.
not just aura bots.. but flamewall bots, etc.

the issue then is, have they found a way to promote hotjoin multiplayer? thats one aspect of d2 that they did not manage to replicate. instead huge amounts of PoE players went all in a SSF.


map system clearly favors SSF. spend currency to open a map, you don't want strangers joining, rushing the boss, and taking all the loot. mazes aren't super mp friendly either. with strangers, you don't want everyone off in rando directions getting lost. you want everyone moving quickly in the same direction to the boss. a major reason boss runs were so focused on in d2. no rng on pathing. (of course boss loot being the only thing that really mattered was a factor too) any that did have rng pathing would have sorcs, etc teleport to the boss and open portals.
loot versus experience. I think this is the key. poe is obviously loot based. and loot does not scale with multiplayer enough to justify playing mp much. and bigger loot piles just means more time sorting, and inventory management.

poe 1. notice, quantity and rarity bonuses go down per member as it increases.. the currency buff is the most useful.

theres an exp buff, but levels in poe1 don't mean much.

we solve this by making levels mean more. raise the cap to like 150 or 200. this wouldnt make each individual level mean more, but would increase the power of character level, in terms of overall character power. thus creating a much larger benefit for playing multiplayer, even if just passively being there ,and not collecting loot.
additionally, "farming" reputation perhaps. although, rep grinds usually suck, and theres always a point you cap it out. so maybe not that.

also, yeah. trying to plan builds now, with incomplete ascendancies, incomplete skills, etc seems so silly. I guess they are streamers, its their jobs. like, sports talk radio just bullshitting on and on. ha.

"hammer of the gods doesn't have an ailment debuff"!
man, frostbolt doesn't even list damage numbers.

I was all set to play merc based on the early reveals but that xbow reloading mechanic sounds like aids. I guess grenades don't use that, but ZiggyD's video made it look like playing PoE trapper or miner which was always one of my least favorite builds.

Shit tier if no NPCs with 4 boobs!
Tempting, got a new pc last month and I played POE closed beta (IIRC it was 50 bucks back then, didn't mind paying as a fuck you to ActiBliz and their shitty D3).... Hate online only crap tough, stopped playing WF a year ago and never touched anying that's not offline since, might wait until the release *and* when I feel like playing it :\.

If they scrap spectral throw so we don't have to deal with Mist in this thread at release, I'm prepared to make that sacrifice

Derkon said:

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Considering all the drama over Fextralife posting an EA vid, and posting a walkthrough on their wiki, I find the Ziggy making this vid and not getting the same hate is kinda lame, lol. He goes out of his way to say its not a build guide and things could change... but it is 100% a build guide.

Its pretty funny there is already drama around a "leak" before an early access launch that won't be final anyway and is only 3 acts. Actual launch is likely to be very different and since its full EA beforehand will not be blind anyway.

Pyros said:

Because he got GGG approval to release it, he's basically working there as some sort of freelance promoter even though it's not an official thing, which is why he does every Q&A interview and all that. Fextralife didn't get any approval for anything and were expressly told not to do it(like everyone else), and still released their stuff. It doesn't help that Fextralife is a putrid website with imbedded twitch streams to inflate their viewer numbers, poorly updated and likely fucking up with google results to be the first in the search list everytime. People just don't like Fextralife to begin with.

As for it being a build guide, I wouldn't say it was, it was more a "I leveled with that and thought it was good and had interesting synergies", although it ended up structured pretty much the same so I can see your point.

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We don't know what GGG told Fextralife, other than GGG saying they made a mistake about something. Apparently FL posted a vid with EA content, and also posted some info (walkthroughs) on their Wiki. According to FL, GGG then told them to take down the vid (which they did) and whatever was on the wiki is no longer there. So, if looking at things objectively, FL didn't do anything they were told not to do, apparently. This just reeks of people being salty (Yes, FL is shitty, I agree).

is spectral throw just renamed/reworked?

still looking through stuff. I see theres now a lightning fury.

"storm spear"
Throw a single copy of your spear. When it hits an enemy it bursts, firing bolts of lightning at multiple other enemies within a large area around it.

Converts 60% of Physical Damage to Lightning Damage
Fires 6 Projectiles
Base radius is 5 metres
Spear cannot Split, Pierce, Fork, Chain or Return
Modifiers to the number of Projectiles fired instead apply to the maximum number of Lightning Bolts fired