Path of Exile

Since they accelerate over time they'll definitely reach you. I don't know about being nerfed, I've played spectral a bit and I don't feel it's really much better than archer builds. I guess you can get better passives with the weapon specific or 2H nodes, or you can use a shield if you want so that's a plus, but the coverage seems a lot worse than split+chain or LA+chain, even with LMP. It sure is good but I don't feel it's as OP as people make it out to be.

joeboo_sl said:

The most nerf-worthy factor of the new class isn't starting with spectral throw, but the fact that there are like a dozen health nodes right near the starting position of the skill tree.

Holy hell, I'm like lvl 10 on hardcore with zero twink gear and almost 500HP. Shit's crazy

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That's an unrelated thing though, and to be honest after making a couple of scions, I'm not sure it's worth it. Sure you can frontload a fuckton of health right away, but your stats are shit so you can't equip all that much or lvl your gems, so you need to stop adding health quickly and go pickup stats, which are fairly far in efficient nodes so it's mostly filler 10 nodes on the way to something else. You don't really need all that health right away and other starting locations can generally find a good amount of health in the first 10-15levels too without sacrificing everything else for it. The main advantage of the build is how it lets you pick 2 opposite sides of the tree without too much loss, however if you focus in one area, it's not that good, especially if that area isn't marauder/templar where the health is located.

I've been making builds a lot and a lot of them around the bottom and right side of the build, melee shit so you want duellist/ranger stuff, or trapper so you want ranger or shadow area, wanna check acro too so that. In every cases, you can start duellist, witch or ranger and get a stronger build right away and eventually they'll just be the same, so Scion is a worse choice. The ranger start is especially strong imo, since it combines both health and evasion, and exits right away into massively efficient nodes(all the larger nodes that gives like +20stats and 2 other things) and good life nodes. There's no wasted stats and you get everything right away, including a decent boost of dmg if you want. The witch start with the change to the flask nodes has very good value if you're gonna need mana quickly, you get out of the starting area quickly by picking flask efficiency nodes(which are good for every build almost and can later be respeced out if CI or something) then hit that large fitness node for health and the 30dex 50str gives you all the stats you need.

I feel the Scion start is so so. It feels really nice to have super high health right away and if you exit via the health regen path instead, you're literally unkillable until brutus and even he doesn't do fuckshit, but at the same time you can only really use attacks efficiently(since they don't need to be lvled) and you won't do too much dmg until you start investing into other shit. The ranger start is so much better imo, it is by far the best, and Duellist might be second. Witch and Scion I'd put together, they're good if you know exactly what you wanna do but they're more situational imo. Marauder and Templar are fairly outdated but still work out fine, and I never liked Shadow start or area in general, it's a great 30-60 area to grab damage in but starting these is like so annoying with how little health there is.

joeboo_sl said:

Question...did the new items from that last league in beta(was it Nemesis?) make it into release? Like the combo necklaces(str and int, int and dex, etc).

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Yeah they're now part of the normal drop table. It's likely the double resist rings from this season will also be added. As for the league specific unique, I'm not entirely sure they were added, maybe.

Dabamf_sl said:

I'd wager there are better classes for a spectral thrower than the scion. Probably dualist.

Has anyone tried discharger after the passive tree change? I thought it was dead, and it seems like the important keystones are now even further apart, but there's a new keystone that 50% of nonfire damage converts to fire, which seems like it could revive burning dischargers. The single-cooldown enduring cry is still rough though

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Direct discharge is probably shit, however the Cast on crit discharge build look broken as fuck. Get a dagger build with a solid crit rate, cast on crit+discharge, a decent attack like spectral, lightning strike or possibly cyclone if you're feeling adventurous, then a volls, and you can spam power discharge super quickly. Can do it with frenzy too and the uniques and spam frenzy discharge instead. Could possibly do it with both not sure how the build would hold out. Potentially endurance on melee stun+good hammer with a bunch of stun treshold nodes/gear could do fire discharge too, not sure. Groundslam fire discharge or some shit.

The result is Discharge is being spammed for "free" while you're spamming an attack that's building the charges, so it's less clunky than build charges > discharge etc.

Well you don't really single target anything but bosses, and bosses are alone(once everything else has been aoed down) so they're easy to target. Rest of the time melee builds use a combination of multistrike, melee splash or just basic aoes, so there isn't really any targetting to be done. The game is balanced around aoeing shit, if you single target everything it takes forever to clear stuff.

But yeah that discharge spam is annoying as fuck, and loud too. That's when solo so in a group it'd be even worse, groups in general are a fucking mess, between spork totems, LMP spectral throw and chain LA for the most common builds, the whole screen is filled with glowy blinking shit in a generally very dark game so it burns through your eyes right into your soul. That's one reason I don't care much about grouping.

Yeah I didn't die but I think mostly because I was melee so I didn't really notice the rain stuff much since he seems to cast the thingie on himself so as long as you melee him you don't really have to move. Not entirely sure how I'm gonna kill him with my summoner though, I put it on hold for a bit while I rerolled as dual strike melee for a bit, now feel like playing summoner again and it's going fine mostly but my gear is atrocious and I don't feel like canibalizing the gear from my main. Also my spec is a fuckton weaker so I don't know, might farm to 38 or some shit before I go there, maybe I'll have enough with the 2points from piety though. Mostly my concern is my zombies are gonna die instantly most likely, then I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be doing, facetanking him with no armor/evasion seems fucking dumb and I don't have a skeleton totem yet, doubt Decoy does a better job either. Guess we'll see, probably just portal spam that shit and hope I don't crash.