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Needless

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I almost nutted so hard when i saw a Soul's Wick to drop and only saw +2 spectres, then decided to continue reading ;(
 

Pyros

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I did. But it took 24 fusings so it's okay. Also I may slot in a phys proj spectre there and beef up golems/carrions in my 6L chest later.
That's lucky, but still 24 fusings lost. Like the other weapons that grant a skill, any support socketed in it is considered linked to it regardless so you only need 6S, not 6L(same as Whispering Ice for example).

I like Soulwrest a decent bit in Synthesis, was really fast, but it got a bit annoying on T14-15 or so, mobs would sometimes kill the phantasms really fast and then it was a pain in the ass to resummon them. They have too low hp, I think Bone Barrier might help a bit with that though but some maps with some mob types were just fucking annoying. Also I didn't like it too much for bossing for the same reason, plus having to switch gems because of faster proj. I had a 5L skele in Hungry Loop to help with bosses. If you have Slave Drivers though it'd probably be fine.
 

Xevy

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Yeah, I honestly didn't realize it was a Nghamu's type/Dervish type deal until I already linked it. It's fine though, I can easily dump a socket and put in something that benefits from the same supports as phantasms (physical, spell, proj) like certain Spectres (titty bitches, stygian revenants, devourers, Blade Vortex bois).

I have 0 problem right now but I'm completing my atlas so I'm just filling out my T5's right now at lvl 86. However, I've played summoner probably 5 leagues total and I can tell you they're definitely better than they've ever been. Damage on Zombies especially seems to be overtuned. My zombies don't die anymore. Not to anything. Unless you specced minion health and used Minion life gems and stuff, that never happened before. They'd die to the odd big boi hit or degen etc, but they're gods now. And their dmg is pretty fucking great on a 2 link.

Pretty sure Monte's grasp is going to be meta for blight clearing summoners though. Only thing I can think of with mob health scaling. When I was using them earlier they'd hit 4 mobs in the front of a full line of blighties and they'd all die. Just massive chain reaction. And now with shit like pulverize you and some of the new ascendancies, you can really juice the AE clear. My 4 big bois were 2 shotting entire sides of legions. Like, before they break out. Just walk up, hit them, they all shattered. It was unreal.

I'll stream some of it or make a highlight later. My gear is absolute shit besides my Soulwrest/Tabula right now. I have no curse/equi etc and I'm running fucking purity of elements b/c I don't have uber done yet. So I don't want to "show off" this half-assed product even though it clears like a champ(ion).

Oh and I luckily found 3(!) wasps nests I sold to fund my Unending Hunger. It's pretty good but honestly with phantasms/zombies/carrions they don't get NEARLY as juiced as they used to.
 

Xequecal

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So Efficient Trainings this league are 1.5 exalts each while Might of the Meek is about 10c, which is about the opposite of how those prices went last league. This means my original build plan that used five of them is pretty dead. Does anyone know if one can trigger Adrenaline at will with Coruscating Elixir? I've got a Gladiator build idea that uses the right side of the tree instead with Inertias so I don't need those, but I don't want to level it up just to find that it doesn't work.
 

AladainAF

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Pyros Pyros You corrected me in guild chat about the spectres, but I did some more reading on the wiki and it says this:

PoE Wiki said:
Monster level: Spectres no longer have their level reduced to the level of the area they are in. Instead, the level of a Spectre is now based on the lowest of either the level of the monster they were raised from, or the maximum level allowed by the skill gem used. This is now indicated on the skill gem.

So the hideout is not a problem, but it seems like the level of your desecrate gem still matters.
 

Xevy

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Pyros Pyros You corrected me in guild chat about the spectres, but I did some more reading on the wiki and it says this:



So the hideout is not a problem, but it seems like the level of your desecrate gem still matters.

I hope that's not accurate. Fuck getting dex up for max level Desecrate.

Edit: Yeah, that wiki is probably wrong. Read the Spectre gem itself. "Spectres ARE lvl 81." Corpse/zone/desecrate corpse don't matter. Thank fucking god.
 
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I've been playing the divine ire totem build and im not particularly thrilled by it. First totems + divine ire mechanically, you have to go so slow cause you can't react if you say flame dash into/near a pack, the totems themselves take a half second or something to "wake up" and divine ire also has to charge up.

And so far the dps is pretty lackluster even with a semi 6 link with a shroud of the lightless, had some issues agains a t13 elder and dmg/aoe isnt enough if you have to handle multiple high tier blight lanes at once, for one you only get to spread em out to 3 different spots and if you move em around to focus problem lanes you lose dps cause of previously mentioned "wake up" and charge time.

Will give mathils chain coc magma orb deadeye from last league a go i think. And thats only cause a i managed to get thicket bow with coc and double damage in 100 ish alts.
 

Borzak

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I was going to play divine ire. Like you tho I watched a few videos and it seemed to have enough dps (tho it was probably well equipped) but it had a timing I'm not sure I could adjust to cause I'm slow.

I spent about an hour last night looking for a build. I'm kind of in "meh" mode. Not really feeling the league even tho I have only about 10 minutes of actually dealing with blight so far.
 

Caeden

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I've been playing the divine ire totem build and im not particularly thrilled by it. First totems + divine ire mechanically, you have to go so slow cause you can't react if you say flame dash into/near a pack, the totems themselves take a half second or something to "wake up" and divine ire also has to charge up.

And so far the dps is pretty lackluster even with a semi 6 link with a shroud of the lightless, had some issues agains a t13 elder and dmg/aoe isnt enough if you have to handle multiple high tier blight lanes at once, for one you only get to spread em out to 3 different spots and if you move em around to focus problem lanes you lose dps cause of previously mentioned "wake up" and charge time.

Will give mathils chain coc magma orb deadeye from last league a go i think. And thats only cause a i managed to get thicket bow with coc and double damage in 100 ish alts.

So I haven’t watched mathil’s build but I’m surprised you found the dps lackluster. I ran this using my own design. I used a 6 link soul mantle and a +1 shaper shield and just nuked everything in less than 5ex gear. Cast speed greatly improves the clear, but it’s never as good as other totem builds or fast builds in general because of the waking up period on totems.

I stacked cast speed and crit/crit multiplier and 5 totems would phase the UE fight in a couple seconds. I did not run Kikaruzu or however it’s spelled or self flagellation after mapping with it. Didn’t like the feel. Instead I doubled up on curse immunity flasks and stuck in a clear mind jewel.
 

LachiusTZ

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I was going to play divine ire. Like you tho I watched a few videos and it seemed to have enough dps (tho it was probably well equipped) but it had a timing I'm not sure I could adjust to cause I'm slow.

I spent about an hour last night looking for a build. I'm kind of in "meh" mode. Not really feeling the league even tho I have only about 10 minutes of actually dealing with blight so far.

I kinda like blight. Lol

If you ever wanted to play a minion build... Now is the Time. Lol
 

Borzak

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Nope, not a fan of minions. That's part of the isse. The flavor of the month is minions or poison assasin. I played a poison last league so meh. Still looking, don't want to play minions tho.
 

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Nope, not a fan of minions. That's part of the isse. The flavor of the month is minions or poison assasin. I played a poison last league so meh. Still looking, don't want to play minions tho.

Maybe try mines/traps or are they gonna be useless for the blight content? They are great for bossing normally.
 

Deathwing

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Mines are basically traps now, I don't know what they were thinking with this rework. If you like traps, yeah, give them a try.

I've been having fun with Scourge Arrow, it tackles Blight content just fine.

I'm looking to transition to Wild Strike soon. Anyone playing a "true" melee skill? How much of a downside is the having to run back and forth between disparate lanes, more so than a true ranged skill would?
 

Needless

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Im pretty bored of minions already and im only in T7 maps lol
Time to look up something else to roll today
 

Caliane

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having played "true melee" back in abyss and wanting to kill myself. I have to say no fucking way, for this one.
you probably could make ample use of impulsa or something, due to the "line" nature of mobs and chain reaction kills. but still yeah, moving from lane to lane. ffs, that has got to be a nightmare.

even legion I noped out of bladestorm, and swapped to cyclone. because bladestorms "attack, then move" was too slow to actually kill legions.

only melee skills with ranged or movement packed in are viable, imho.
so I mean sure, flicker/concpath/cyclone. charged dash fixes seem to have made is solid. is chain hook viable? stats seem solid. needs a foe to move though.
no idea on the state of shield charge either.
 
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Thregin

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So I haven’t watched mathil’s build but I’m surprised you found the dps lackluster. I ran this using my own design. I used a 6 link soul mantle and a +1 shaper shield and just nuked everything in less than 5ex gear. Cast speed greatly improves the clear, but it’s never as good as other totem builds or fast builds in general because of the waking up period on totems.

I stacked cast speed and crit/crit multiplier and 5 totems would phase the UE fight in a couple seconds. I did not run Kikaruzu or however it’s spelled or self flagellation after mapping with it. Didn’t like the feel. Instead I doubled up on curse immunity flasks and stuck in a clear mind jewel.

I realize i have a lot of room to optimize and increase the dps, still only have 5 totems for example and no necromancer's diadem so lack auras (165k beam hits flaskless on shaper/boss, around 1/5 of what mathil got). But i have 2ex and a few c to my name, and i lack alot of the craft unlocks even if did want to try hard this build a bit more but it just seems unnapealing to me. Totems feel like a stupid choice after watching a few streams of people playing necros, they dont have to stop and cast totems all the time and they have longer reach and no "wake up" time for their - i'm guessing who shoots gmp projectiles - spectres.
 

AladainAF

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Edit: Yeah, that wiki is probably wrong. Read the Spectre gem itself. "Spectres ARE lvl 81." Corpse/zone/desecrate corpse don't matter. Thank fucking god.

I hope that's the case!

Edit: Yep, they just updated the wiki this morning, so as usual I was wrong :D
 
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Caliane

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yeah, the patch is very new. People need to edit the wiki manually for much of the stuff. Particularly, notes like that. while some raw gem stats, etc are populated automatically from game data.
Spectres are gem level now.