Path of Exile

Vitality_sl said:

Yeah he means +2fire +1all, also: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP - Summoners, don't skip out on CWDT + other defensive measures. The CWDT IC EC 3L is on of the strongest defensive combos when considering the most rippy stuff in upper tier beyond (beyond packs and devourers in maps)

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I had arctic armour but it wasn't enough Lesson kinda learned though, soon as I have a couple of 4-links (up to cruel, 43 atm) I'll get the cast when damage taken going again. Soooon

We have plenty of room at night on Ramp for map chains and Zana if anyone is interested

Got to lvl 30+ last night on my flicker striker, put some pretty GG leveling gear I found on the ramp guild bank. (6 socketed the limbsplit someone had on there)

Need to get my hands on a grrrr 5l

Got a couple vaal and a chaos to spend on trying to find a decent Terminus est and blood dance (and blood rage/melee phys gems)

Might have to poexyz it. Not sure anyone in rampside of the guild wants beyond currency for this stuff.

I'm still trying to get a 5l for my flicker ranger. haha.

Blood dance is neat. but not super important really, I don't think. Only really the life regen, but really chaos resist to counter blood rage is more important then trying to counter it with raw regen. Which is also kindof why the frenzy on kill isn't as great. then again, the move speed would help with rampage teirs.

I do have a solaris lorica.. how does that work with blood rage? probably a moot point. the degen isn't a big deal.

Vitality_sl said:

Got to lvl 30+ last night on my flicker striker, put some pretty GG leveling gear I found on the ramp guild bank. (6 socketed the limbsplit someone had on there)

Need to get my hands on a grrrr 5l

Got a couple vaal and a chaos to spend on trying to find a decent Terminus est and blood dance (and blood rage/melee phys gems)

Might have to poexyz it. Not sure anyone in rampside of the guild wants beyond currency for this stuff.

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Got it all, spam me if I am in maps and Ill come out to add you. Ill try to remember to put in the bank when I get home if not.

Would 60 regen per sec out regen blood rage? Ive got a slew of gems hitting 20 tonight, 6 in my BP and 6 in off slots and thats one of them I thought about using.

Blood dance boots are just way too good for flickerstrike. The extra frenzy charge on kill keeps you capped at 7 charges which in turn keeps you at 7% hp/sec regen (subtract 4 for blood rage for a net 3%) combo that with my spec of 10% hp/sec from passives and I regen something like 600hp/sec at 4k hp at max stacks.

5L flickerstrike gets pretty expensive, especially if running blood magic gem, (I'm running blood magic passive currently). HP regen tanking with high evasion + ondars is very viable. Especially in something as easy as Rampage.

Basically right now, I just stack up frenzy (since I dont have blood rage yet) and just hold Q until the screen is clear, I don't even need to pot or anything because my hp regen is so high. at lvl 30 I'm at like tier 8 or 9 rampage already most of the time.

So I had every intention of doing a flameblast build on Beyond, and using Arc to level until I had enough fire-related nodes to make flameblast a beast, but goddamn if Arc isn't just too much fun. Its just so absolutely brainless to use, it's the perfect farming skill. You don't have to even point in the direction of a mob, much less even click on it, Arc does all the hard work for you. Arc is amazing for the Loremaster defend quests. I just park myself on the little lexicon thing you are defending and chain cast Arc until the quest ends. Could do it with my eyes closed it's so easy.

The damage scaling is insane as well, I'm running just a 4L setup with Arc-Spell Echo-Faster Casting-Culling Strike(and herald of Ice) and I'm at 2300 DPS that then chains 4 times. (The lightning damage is something like 10-1100 with a .30 casting time at level 55 character, level 13 gems) A 3L setup(Arc, Echo, Faster) with +2 lightning gem would actually be even higher DPS, but I haven't found any +2 lightning gem items yet. This is all with taking only a handful of damage nodes so far, I've been going after survivability nodes since I'm in a hardcore league.

Maybe Arc won't be as great for mapping/endgame stuff, but for leveling its just a beast. I don't think I've ever had a character that was well over 2000 listed DPS before I got to Merciless difficulty. Everything is just melting.

Arc is the best spell ive used for mapping, especially with a totem. You dont ever aim and can focus on just kiting and running which is what you do on HC anyway. You just need an empower lvl 3 or corrupted 2 with +1 and +1 helmet to make it insane at +3. I would use Arc + empower + lightning pen + spell echo if you want to max dps. I would ask one of the pros on beyond that kill everything to see if they have an Atiziri mask also, for Arc its the shit with +1 and -50% mana use and its a common drop from her.

yeah. the life leech as well from blood rage makes the degen a nonissue. only between large distances between packs, a pot to keep topped off. I had 4% regen at one point, but removed it, as life regen just was not needed I felt. the leech was more then enough.
do note blood rage's chaos damage is effected by resist, up and down. not a straight 1to1.

4l flicker is 44mana atm for me. and with dw attack speed its 9-11a/s. which is 3-4 flickers per second. 132-176mana/s.
I run with mana leech. but, since mana leech is not instant. I totally run out from time to time. Have to chain drink mana/hybrid pots to keep the mana pool up. its not the volume, its the speed of recovery. not fast enough, with 80% of my mana reserved or so. (dual heralds/hatred.)
Actually considering grabbing the +5 mana on hit node. hrm. double checking its +2. and behind the mana on kills. lame. not worth it.
Googling the mechanics. perhaps I simply need to increase max mana a bit more. mana leech is 12.5% of max mana/s.
583 max, 73mana/s. I have 5% mana leech. while dealing 1200 noncrit single target per hit with flicker. (nevermind the aoe part, or crits.) 60/hit, or 540/s from 9 hits... but the cap is killing it. seems I need to double my mana nearly to leech/regen more then flicker is using. without chain drinking mana pots. hrm.

5l with blood magic would solve the problem too. Which then would free up those mana leech nodes.




I'll throw a blood rage into guild back. got spares of that too.

And yeah. blood dance is defiantly GOOD. just don't think its a requirement.

Blood dance is a requirement for me becuase I don't want to have to micro my hp with potions, especially not in rampage. Especially when I just want to hold down flicker and go infinite with terminus est.

For all you guys funding this build, please let me know if you want to make a char on beyond and I can help out there much better than I can on rampage.

you doing a cast on damage taken as well?

I can't decide what works best there. you're doing life/armor 2h. mine is evade/block/dodge.
Got enduring cry atm. would do the endcry/immortal call if I had the slots likely. have tried temp chains, and poachers mark.

I'm doing Life/Life regen Armor EV Ondars (no IR)

CWDT: EC IC Increased Duration

If I can find a 5 link Terminus est I'll put flicker links in it (Flick/mPhys/mSplash/mStrike/*pcoc or crit multi*)

Chest would end up being: Herald of ash - Ele Prolif - Reduced Mana - Curse on hit - Vulnerability (reserves about 15% hp after bm reduction node and reduced mana)

In a 4L I have: CWDT Setup
4L #2: Viper Strike - Multistrike - Melee Phys - Increased Crit Chance
4L #3: Leap Slam - Faster Attacks (2 junk slots for Blood Rage & something else)

My friend has the terminus but the other stuff I put aside for you, I dont think any of his are linked or anything special =((

it looks like I can get a 4L or 6soc terminus est for 1c on rampage anyways so that works out. Are you thinking of doing anything on beyond any time soon krass?

Ill make a quick run to 80 once I kill Uber to see what beyond is about, I already have the level 90 achievement from Hardcore from Invasion times.

Caliane_sl said:

4l flicker is 44mana atm for me. and with dw attack speed its 9-11a/s. which is 3-4 flickers per second. 132-176mana/s.
I run with mana leech. but, since mana leech is not instant. I totally run out from time to time. Have to chain drink mana/hybrid pots to keep the mana pool up. its not the volume, its the speed of recovery. not fast enough, with 80% of my mana reserved or so. (dual heralds/hatred.)
Actually considering grabbing the +5 mana on hit node. hrm. double checking its +2. and behind the mana on kills. lame. not worth it.
Googling the mechanics. perhaps I simply need to increase max mana a bit more. mana leech is 12.5% of max mana/s.
583 max, 73mana/s. I have 5% mana leech. while dealing 1200 noncrit single target per hit with flicker. (nevermind the aoe part, or crits.) 60/hit, or 540/s from 9 hits... but the cap is killing it. seems I need to double my mana nearly to leech/regen more then flicker is using. without chain drinking mana pots. hrm

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An option to help with mana or leech issues isThief's Tormentunique ring. It uses both your ring slots, and adds no dps, but it should give you almost infinite mana and life, and it's super cheap to buy as well, like 1-3 chaos.

I just run bloodmagic keystone, I'm a hipster though.

Some more questions as I try and relearn how this game works, basically newbie questions even though I've been a supporter since closed beta..

1) Is a build required to reach end game or could I literally throw skill points as the passive tree and be alright?

2) If a build is required for end game, are there some good ones that don't require any unique items?

3) Exalted Orbs are blowing my mind, I've been browsing the forums looking at builds and even the "cheaper" ones require 5-10 of said orbs:
A) Given the rarity of these orbs, posts i've read saying some folk with 300+ hours only finding 2 or 3, how in the bloody hell are people buying/selling unique items for 30ex?
B) Are you able to craft these? Trade for these? (whats the exchange currency?) Or is there some secret RMT crap going on?

4) Sockets, Is there a level cap or rarity cap for how many sockets can be on an item? I picked up aShiversting - Path of Exile Wikiway back and was thinking of maybe trying to make a build using it but it only has 1 blue socket.

Thanks!

Rita Poon_sl said:

Some more questions as I try and relearn how this game works, basically newbie questions even though I've been a supporter since closed beta..

1) Is a build required to reach end game or could I literally throw skill points as the passive tree and be alright?

2) If a build is required for end game, are there some good ones that don't require any unique items?

3) Exalted Orbs are blowing my mind, I've been browsing the forums looking at builds and even the "cheaper" ones require 5-10 of said orbs:
A) Given the rarity of these orbs, posts i've read saying some folk with 300+ hours only finding 2 or 3, how in the bloody hell are people buying/selling unique items for 30ex?
B) Are you able to craft these? Trade for these? (whats the exchange currency?) Or is there some secret RMT crap going on?

4) Sockets, Is there a level cap or rarity cap for how many sockets can be on an item? I picked up aShiversting - Path of Exile Wikiway back and was thinking of maybe trying to make a build using it but it only has 1 blue socket.

Thanks!

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1) Short Answer: no. Long Answer: define end-game. You'll want a decent (if not completely min-maxed build) to experience the majority of end-game content. This isn't that bad, watch some videos. ZiggyD's material is great.

2) Yes, absolutely. On the official forums in the class section people will post builds and explain if its budget/beginner.

3) People "color up" their smaller orbs into exalted. For end-game purchasing, only exalts talk. You buy exalts with 20-30 chaos orbs, which are far easier to find/generate. Look up the chaos orb vendor recipe. This requires some trading, but its not too bad. Take 5-10 minutes a play session and watch the trade channels. You can swap between them by typing /trade 1 or /trade 2, etc etc etc... You'll see people spamming WTB Exalt 28 pure chaos. That is just for example; shows that people are offering 28 pure (as in, no other currency) chaos. That's how you get a feel for the market price. If you're playing on a new league, then only the most uber of uber items will cost 10ex+, and having that currency a few weeks into a league means you're doing some serious playing AND also getting some lucky drops.

4) Not sure.

Max sockets is determined by item level, not required level, so if your shiversting dropped in a level 50+ zone, it can have a max of 6 sockets, if it dropped in a level 28 zone, the max sockets would be 4, etc. While the item is on your cursor, type /itemlevel to find out which level yours is, then use the charthereto see how many sockets it can hold. That said, there's not a lot of builds you can base around shiversting beyond level 20ish!

As was already stated, yeah you can make a lot of great builds with only self found gear. Depending on how far into the endgame you want to go though, you may want to take some time to research a build that runs on self-found low end gear, but has the ability to scale later with the high end upgrades should you obtain them.

In general, and this is in broad terms, builds based around "attack" damage tend to scale better at the highest levels in comparison to spell based characters. That said though, almost every build, with the right equipment, can handle everything existing in the current game.