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Joeboo

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Krassus_sl said:
I messed up my beyond ranger and went IAS instead of life and EVA, going to try that tornado ranger on Beyond also. Thankfully I am only level 7 and its np, after watching videos on it I for sure want to try it out.
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If you haven't seen this regarding Tornado Shot, watch it, there's some key info about using tornado shot to it's full impact, and the different ways that LMP and GMP effect it. It's not just a standard point and shoot skill, the placement of your aiming in regards to packs and individual mobs is very important.
 
Caliane

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If you do lmp+gmp, and tora's rank 8 "projectiles return to you", will all 21 projectiles return to you in a shotgun?

lmp+gmp+fork projectile return?
 
Joeboo

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well lmp and gmp don't work together, but yeah, I'm not sure how a "projectile return" works with a projectile that explodes/splits. Would be interesting to see. In that case, you'd always want to just fire behind the mob/group, let it pierce through, then let them return again. Also if you go with a pierce-based Tornado shot build, you don't want to use fork since projectiles either pierce OR fork, but can't do both. Something like Tornado+GMP+Chain and the projectile return would be interesting.

Unfortunately, in my literally hundreds of hours of playing PoE, I've never seen a GMP drop. Ever. I've seen every skill gem in the game, and have probably had a dozen 5L items drop for me, but never a GMP gem, in any league. Blech. GMP drops are rarer than exalt drops for me.
 
Caliane

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GMP is a quest reward.
GMp+lmp do work together, its just the damage penalty is so much, its pretty much never worth doing.
 
Sinzar

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You can buy a GMP for 1 chaos onPoE Goodsand it's also a quest reward from the merciless library.

I don't have it yet, so don't know myself, but I would think the only projectiles that return are those that aren't consumed on hit, meaning only projectiles that pierce, so setups with fork or chain wouldn't return, but a 100% pierce split arrow volley should all return. Again, just my speculation, not tested.
 
Caliane

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Here's GGG's Mark describing it.
"Returning is a behaviour a projectile can have to continue travelling after a hit, like pierce, fork and chain. The projectiles will return if they hit a target and do not pierce/fork/chain from them. If they pierce/fork/chain, they cannot return on that target (but can on future targets if they don't pierce/fork/chain on those). Once it's hit one target, a regular projectile cannot hit the same target again."
 
Joeboo

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Caliane_sl said:
GMP is a quest reward.
GMp+lmp do work together, its just the damage penalty is so much, its pretty much never worth doing.
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Didn't realize they added that with that quest/area. I haven't lived that far into Act 3 merciless on hardcore yet, lol
 
Korrupt

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Whatever causes knockbacks on crit for rangers is really OP, running with my buddy doing the 78 maps already at 80 mainly because of the knockback. It interrupts and stuns most of the channel abilities that kill me. One more level till am I am low life on my shadow though and it will be moot anyway.
 
Sinzar

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They added hybrid % physical damage and accuracy crafting in the patch. Getting that overpowered physical weapon just became a whole lot easier. Another great addition i saw was 7-12% haste to quivers for only 1 chaos.
 
Vitality

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It's huge. Basically counts as 3 passive points. I can now get to 10 zombies fairly reasonably and it adds a fourth super 10khp infernal blow zombie to the pack if I use mon'tegruls by bumping my count to 8 from 7.

I mean one zombie can already solo piety, so now I can have 8 of them.

The only lame thing is that you can't craft +1 zombies onto a cloak of defiance.
 
Caliane

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yeah. all the rank 8 stuff is pretty game changing.

I almost have to wonder. how will it effect leagues?
Races and leagues clearing economy is good for the game. but, having to re-farm masters? no thanks. New leagues and races will be painful. Possibly to the point of not even participating.
Almost want new ones to start with rank 5 masters or something.

Crafts also put a major shift into rares with build defining traits now. Crafted rares with mods uniques can't have. Its very interesting.
 
Fogel

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Agreed, I don't look forward to having to redo masters in the next 3 month league should that be the case.
 
Krag

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Yeah, I was thinking about the same issue a while back. Ideally the masters carry over so you can continue the progress or they get a massive head start next league. Either way I'm not going to actively farm them in the next leagues, I think I'll just do some of them when I run into them out and about.
 
zombiewizardhawk

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Masters carrying over would absolutely destroy 90% of the point of new leagues, might as well let people carry over their old chars too if you do that.
 
Eidal

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As someone who only plays in the challenge leagues, I'm sad I won't ever get to mess around with the level 8 master (if things remain unchanged). I don't have a good solution though. GGG is probably trying to get a grasp on what percentage of their player base ends up where regarding master progress.

That being said, I do not want already leveled masters in a new league -- the experience of a new league is heavily dependent upon having nothing when you start.
 
Byr

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you wont see rank 8 masters in a fresh league. The most important part about these leagues is the illusion that everyone starts at the same point, no previous time investments, etc, required.
 
Sinzar

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Masters carrying over wouldn't make sense for a new league, sure, but I definitely think masters need an accelerated exp rate in future leagues. Everyone still starts and will progress equally, but getting level 8 masters before the league ends for non-extreme grinders needs to be a real possibility.
 
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