Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous

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Chanur

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On my 4th play through. Did Angel, Lich, Aeon, and now doing Demon. All fun in their own way.
 
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Caliane

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Gold dragon update incoming.

Coming in the impending major patch 2.5 that will accompany the launch of the Game of the Year Edition (you’ll learn more about that soon!), the update tweaks and improves many aspects of this Mythic path.


new visuals.
new mythic spellbook.
new mythic features.
updated damage/stats to previous spells and abilities.

new dragon domain, blessings.

new dragon religions.

Narrative Updates:
"Instead of focusing all our resources on a single large quest like we did with the Devil in the previous update, this time we’ve taken a lighter but more sweeping touch, placing an emphasis on reactivity throughout the story.

We started from a concern voiced by many of our players — that unlike other late-game Mythics (Legend, Swarm, Devil), the transition to the Gold Dragon felt somewhat rushed and ‘‘out of the blue” for the Commanders who lacked an existing connection to a draconic heritage.

To address this, we prepared two new full-scale (pun intended!) dragon-themed religions:
Apsu
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Dahak
, available at character creation.

Each of these new religions will serve as a smooth buildup toward the Gold Dragon path for players who want their story to naturally tie into this Mythic but don’t want to be locked into picking one of the dragon-themed archetypes. Both of these religions have a lot of reactivity across the game, some of it exclusively to the Gold Dragon.

Additionally, we’ve added two new story beats available only for the Gold Dragon, where their wisdom of millennia has a chance to make two certain well-known characters take an unexpected turn to the path of good and redemption. This will, of course, be reflected in the epilogue slides.
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2 npcs can be redeemed via gold dragon now.


"Game of the year edition" will be a collected edition it seems. 1 purchase, all dlc included.
 
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mkopec

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I wonder if GOTY will be a new standalone purchase or if one can upgrade their copy to GOTY since I dont have all the expansions and DLC?
 

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Worth paying them some money for it. They did upgrade the Kingmaker one so they might do it again here.
 
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Caliane

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heres the reddit thread. owlcat is pretty active in it. "VERY SOON" for more Goty edition info. so, probably tomorrow.

I think the implication is GOTY edition will just be all the DLC. s1 and 2. if you already have them, its nothing new. Aside for the 2.5 updates.
 
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mkopec

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Worth paying them some money for it. They did upgrade the Kingmaker one so they might do it again here.
Yeeah I dont mind paying them more for it, its just I dont want to pay for it ALL, if you know what I mean. Another one of those that are on my holiday break list. Playing through their Warhammer RT again right now, but its going quicker than I anticipated, plus Ive been sinking some hardcore hours into it.

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Yeeah I dont mind paying them more for it, its just I dont want to pay for it ALL, if you know what I mean. Another one of those that are on my holiday break list. Playing through their Warhammer RT again right now, but its going quicker than I anticipated, plus Ive been sinking some hardcore hours into it.

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Is RT any good? I heard it is still super buggy. WOTR is amazeballs, but I had planned on waiting another year or so on RT before diving in.
 

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Is RT any good? I heard it is still super buggy. WOTR is amazeballs, but I had planned on waiting another year or so on RT before diving in.
My experience was that it was hardly buggy at all. The game balance is absolute dogshit, probably because the game engine they were adapting has never been adapted for a CRPG before and they were left flying by the seat of their pants. Doesn't take long for a properly built MC to become a nearly invincible killing machine even on higher difficulty levels and the power level of companions is wildly inconsistent.

I don't regret picking it up (on sale) but I don't know that I'll ever feel the urge to play through it again when I could revisit WotR instead. About all I can really say for RT is that I'd replay it before I'd ever consider replaying Kingmaker.
 
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mkopec

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Well I respect Gavs opinion but I loved RT. Played through it twice now and prob will play through it again when a new DLC comes out. Yeah the balance is shit, although they are fixing it still. Does not matter, the game was fun and I find it more enjoyable than Pathfinder buff-athon. I like the setting more, I liked the characters more, I found the combat being better (fully turn based with a cover system) and the 40K system was less obtuse and easier to grasp than Pathfinder. Although there is still a learning curve. I just wish it was longer with more dungeon set pieces to fight through. And more planets to fully explore. But by all means this is not a short game. I just wish there was more.

Gav makes a reference to the balance, but if you look at Pathfinder WOTR you can say the same shit, especially in beginning, and there is WAY more shit to exploit there if you know the system, and just as easy to make god tiered player characters. Same can be said with my play through BG3. Once you know the OP shit, and build around them, its the same shit. Its them trying to shoehorn these PnP systems into video games. those systems are just not inherently balanced, so then they spend the next few years to try and balance them in a video game setting. (Typically nerfing the shit out of everything)

But if you like these types of turn based tactical RPG then this is a no brainer.
 
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My experience was that it was hardly buggy at all. The game balance is absolute dogshit, probably because the game engine they were adapting has never been adapted for a CRPG before and they were left flying by the seat of their pants. Doesn't take long for a properly built MC to become a nearly invincible killing machine even on higher difficulty levels and the power level of companions is wildly inconsistent.

I don't regret picking it up (on sale) but I don't know that I'll ever feel the urge to play through it again when I could revisit WotR instead. About all I can really say for RT is that I'd replay it before I'd ever consider replaying Kingmaker.
Mostly agree and don't remember any specific bugs when I played at release, even though I am sure I hit some. It should be smooth sailing in that regard now.

Without opening the game up I forget which difficulty but I played on the highest or second highest (w/o ironman) and only a few fights took more than one attempt (Chaos Space Marine). Which was nothing like Kingmaker or Wrath, where some fights took 15+ attempts and trash could often be challenging when going in blind (I couldn't beat the first water elemental on highest difficulty).

I still love Kingmaker though and spent more time with it than with Wrath, but that was before Wrath came out.
 

Caliane

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oddly, they didn't make a reddit post on it?


Greetings, Pathfinders!

We are happy to announce that together with the latest content update 2.5.0 we are releasing the Game of the Year Edition! We will still be working on fixing bugs and you can expect some quality improvements to the game in the near future, but we have no plans to add any more new content.

Game of the Year Edition includes Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous and all expansions. You can now purchase the extended adventure with the click of a single button!

Note that the Visitors from Morta DLC is not included in the Game of the Year Edition, but you can always add it to the game absolutely free of charge. There are no differences between Game of the Year Edition and Enhanced Edition with all of the expansions, and all future updates will be released at the same time for both editions.

If you're ready for the biggest and most epic adventure of your life, get the Game of the Year Edition today! Good luck on your Crusade!

it doesn't add anything. its just a 1 button selection for the Enhanced edition +s1 and 2 dlc all together.

2.5.0 gold dragon update patch notes.


Rogue trader. said a lot in the Rogue trader thread of course.

short version. Great game. fantastic base tactics system. its just way too easy to become broken OP with all the characters/classes, that it makes the underlying system trivial.
Theres no superbosses, or hard side content like in Wotr. in fact, the actual bosses become speedbumps you barely notice sadly... the game would be far more memorable with some real challenge. especially when you consider the things you go up against. que debates on if the RT and their retinue is more or less powerful then primarchs..
probably the best realization of 40k in any game to date. Companions are probably owlcats best. but still limited. its not the mo-cap, deep roleplay of bg3.
medium bugginess. much of it has been fixed. but theres still some. and reactivity is low.
first dlc a focus on reactivity was one of their goals. and from what I hear the first DLC is a instant buy, and meshes into the base game very very well.
Replay is very low sadly. its not like WoTR with tons of classes, and mythic paths add huge swings in storyline, and content. the three "paths" heretic, dogmatic, and iconoclast barely have any unique content. heretic has some. but dogmatic/iconoclast is either none, or so little, its not even noticeable.

next dlc is SUPPOSED to be before christmas. the 24th of dec specifically.. but, I have doubts. the previous was late, and just came out back in spet24th. (aug 8th was the initial date)
Second DLC is Adeptus Arbites. Judge Dredd.

so, I recommend the game. but due to limited replay. waiting for DLC to drop first might be the correct choice.
 

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Is RT any good? I heard it is still super buggy. WOTR is amazeballs, but I had planned on waiting another year or so on RT before diving in.

WOTR has a solid claim on being the #1 crpg for neckbeard autists of all time. ( Normies are more likely to go for BG3 ;p )

RT is fun, but doesn't really compare.
 
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