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Tuco

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In terms of priority I can't argue. The question I have is whether, long term, this game will attempt to capitalize on the very profitable lure-hubs and sponsored pokestops. If so I don't really have much interest in it.
 

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Looks like they've once again decided to completely fuck over rural/suburban players by basing it on pokestops.

qq nucka. It's extremely difficult to have a dataset for pokestops apart from landmarks. If there is nothing but a bunch of stupid houses all around you, it's going to be really hard to justify a pokestop. There is some real machine learning knowledge needed to properly place pokestops in areas that have a significant amount of users.

For example, I figured out how to make an Everquest mobile version of PokemonGo.

One of the steps is finding landmarks to place gameobjects on the 3d geo map (pokestops) that players can interact with(which act as spawn points for mobs i.e. frenzy camp). Below is this example:
*mapzen*/v1/search?api_key=search-TeXrSTX&text=YMCA&boundary.circle.lon=-79.186484&boundary.circle.lat=43.818156&boundary.circle.radius=35

In this example, you get a feed of all YMCA locations within a 35-kilometer radius of a location in Ontario, Canada. That is what I'm able to get as a regular person on the internet.


The whole reason they made this game, is to really do some deep digging, in-q-tel, cia, conspiracy, tinfoil, gps mapping indoor buildings, advertising $$ rape, evil shit.

~you guys have no idea how deep of a big brother experiment this pokeman game actually is. Faggot tuco, a current active rerolled.org admin, wants to disparage my claims of pokeman knnowledge.


My friends, the real "pokemon knowledge" is in the conspiracy afoot. How "they" will control us in the future.

Cum at me, and cum at me hard.

Keyhole received funding from a firm called In-Q-Tel, a government-controlled venture capital firm that invests in companies that will help beef up Big Brother’s tool belt. What’s more, the funds In-Q-Tel gave Keyhole mostly came from the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA), whose primary mission is “collecting, analyzing, and distributing geospatial intelligence.”

Still unsure if Pokémon Go’s creator is a government spook?
http://blackbag.gawker.com/pokemon-go-is-a-government-surveillance-psyop-conspirac-1783461240


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You're an idiot. If anyone wanted to track what you're doing they're already doing it simply with your phone GPS. The only thing this game proves is you can easily bring customers to a location with a mobile game. But location tracking, habits and everything else? Google already has that market cornered and they're not looking to buy data they already have.
 

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This game farms more data than people simply searching for directions on a map.

The guy who created the game is the guy who made Google Earth for Google. So saying that Google already has that market cornered, you are saying that Google has already met the market of someone who created the market who has deep investment relations with a known CIA investment firm.

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Tenks

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Google controls Android retard. Ever taken a picture at a store and Google asks you to add it to the location?
 

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do you move while you take a picture? No, you do not.

You don't record a single location. PokemonGO records the entire route(+more) someone takes from an undefined A to B. Different from a direction search on a google map.

Swarm intelligence at a larger scale.

This whole entire model is exactly like Foursquare, except a better game. You catch pokeman instead of stupid badges.

This is bigger than you bro.
 
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Yeah but who gives a shit which way Bob takes to work. Or what sally does when she walks her dog Muffins in the evening rr little Timmy does on his bicycle? Youre reaching.
 

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The point is mapping the world (inside buildings), swarm intelligence, artificial intelligence, machine learning, a new advertising model to get people at a location.

No one gives a shit about you as an individual, but everyone wants to know where people traffic is going. Especially on the ground, real world shit.


Also, it's a big deal which way bob takes to work. You can make bob go different routes to work just because of a paid pokestop. Making it a bigger chance that he spends time at your location and % of the time they will become a patron. Thats the advertising scheme.
 

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qq nucka. It's extremely difficult to have a dataset for pokestops apart from landmarks. If there is nothing but a bunch of stupid houses all around you, it's going to be really hard to justify a pokestop. There is some real machine learning knowledge needed to properly place pokestops in areas that have a significant amount of users.
This is correct and the dependence on XM pools is a big gap in the game. I expect that it's a surmountable gap for them, especially with the current revenue they have.

If they can secure the data for it, a very simple thing to really improve the game would be to give a broad increase in pokemon spawns to any park. City, state, federal, whatever. And go one step further and have a spawn-type multiplier(s) in each park such that a given park is a Machop/Staryu park, another might be a Duduo/Ghastly one etc.

This would be a much more enjoyable system than the XM Pool based one.
 

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I really dont see how any of this data really matters, TBH.

Mapping inside of buildings? For what? Who the fuck cares what my McMansion is on the inside, its just like the others around it. And my office? LOL?

Swarm intelligence? Here let me fill you in on something since you botted your way through the game. When someone goes to catch pokys, they are not doing their normal shit, they are doing it to catch pokys so the data is irrelevant since they know where the pokys spawn. Durr
 

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I really dont see how any of this data really matters, TBH.

Mapping inside of buildings? For what? Who the fuck cares what my McMansion is on the inside, its just like the others around it. And my office? LOL?

The data matters because it's valuable. Extremely valuable. They can sell the data without selling the company, for 10s to 100s of millions. I'm not going to even bother about explaining why mapping inside buildings is important as mapping the outside world.


Swarm intelligence? Here let me fill you in on something since you botted your way through the game. When someone goes to catch pokys, they are not doing their normal shit, they are doing it to catch pokys so the data is irrelevant since they know where the pokys spawn. Durr

When someone is protesting, they are not doing their normal shit. They are doing it to protest. So the data is irrelevant since they know where and when they are protesting.

Their locations don't matter either right?


Same argument.

If they can secure the data for it, a very simple thing to really improve the game would be to give a broad increase in pokemon spawns to any park. City, state, federal, whatever.

If I have it, they have it.

http://search.mapzen.com/v1/search?api_key=search-dcbaK1e&text=Park&boundary.country=US

I use that to create gameobjects at parks that people click and it triggers an eqemu spawn.

Already have this EQgo shit setup for android.

This dude/company has better gps info than any company in the world apart from military organizations.



Pretty sure this pokeman company has better information on where to drop nuclear bombs and at what time to cause the largest casualties possible.

Probably more up to date information than anyone else.
 
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The data matters because it's valuable. Extremely valuable. They can sell the data without selling the company, for 10s to 100s of millions. I'm not going to even bother about explaining why mapping inside buildings is important as mapping the outside world.

You're still not explaining why this data is valuable?




When someone is protesting, they are not doing their normal shit. They are doing it to protest. So the data is irrelevant since they know where and when they are protesting.

Their locations don't matter either right?


Same argument.

Huh?

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Birds fly to the south in the winter. Why bother collecting information on it when you know where they are going?

You have no idea why this level of real-world/player information is even relevant to the real world.

You arguments are retarded 3rd grade shit.
 

mkopec

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But birds are not flying their normal pattern when they are trying catch pokys that the fucking game spawns and knows where the spawns are. Think about this for a second and maybe you will get it.

Game spawns pokys at the local mall, so people got to local mall to catch them because there is a lot of them there and mybe some rares. Its irrelevant data that means shit. Game is leading them so who the fuck cares?

I could see this data maybe being relevant if it was normal human patterns or some shit to some scientist or to plan traffic or future infrastructure. Which they can get anyway from GPS if they wanted to.

You still didnt tell me how mapping the inside of structures matters? And how does it map them other than a path people walk to the nearest few feet?
 

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If I put a lure at a pokestop near the mall, and you start getting an uptick in pokespins at the lured pokestop and see a drop in spins at the mall pokestop, that is swarm intelligence.

You can figure out what carrots you can put nearby to get people to move there, to increase your chances at that person physically going to your location.

That is just ONE example. I wasn't even going to give you one, because you are so retarded, but I gifted you with it. If you have the power to make people go wherever the fuck you want, that's valuable and powerful. That is what this game is achieving.


You're welcome.