Daidraco
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Im pretty sure you're referring to Fish Bait. Salty/Tyen and Abacab trained the fuck out of IB, no matter what zone we were in. You guys could be raiding D'vinn for all the fucks I care and those two would still train your asses. A big incident happened in Fear when they trained IB and we lost Dracoliche because of it, (GM intervention etc.) which was the final straw for a lot of people. We broke up Fish Bait that night and made DA. I know - because I was a founding Officer of DA. A lot of people lump DA in with Fish bait, and I get that. We were basically the same people, but under different leadership and... to me at least, it showed.
A fucking book about my time in DA:
In retaliation, it seemed like IB trained the shit out of us every chance we were ahead and was your typical top dog keeping the next in line in beta status. Its questionable that it was so easy for you to move over to IB from DA because flipping switches wasnt exactly easy for the people that I saw do it. If it revolved around a shitty player, it would be one thing. But I saw some very knowledgeable, and in terms of EQ - skillful, people that were playing IB's needed classes, get turned away quick as shit. Suicide if you didnt have a sure invite, cause we would rarely let them back into DA. What was there next choice, really? The next closest guild was that European guild and at that time, they were lucky to field 20 people at a raid. Either way, you were friends with IB members and put them first, far ahead of DA. Whether you admit that or not. Not calling you out, cause I really could give a shit now..
The European guild, the swedish guild, all of them... we used them for their numbers and it would secure us a kill - losing only 1 item out of everything that dropped for their help. Usually, plenty happy to take the shittiest of the items. Which is basically where we recruited from and Im pretty sure I was called a Scalper by more than one guild leader. This, imo, is when we started pushing IB's shit in and beating them to spawns. (When you have people from all over the world in your guild - it didnt matter when a boss popped.)
DA didnt start to become shit till a guild member that was friends with people in IB got ShowEQ from a special "Bard" officer in IB (without throwing out names directly). Which proved that IB had been using ShowEQ for quite some time. I thought fair game, myself - because ShowEQ was a pretty big edge. Hell, I even used it. I would be helping someone get a Pegasus Cloak and even then, we would be racing IB members to Pegasus Spawns. Like.. wtf? Thats when you really knew that ShowEQ was just a widely used secret among your top guilds and if you werent using it - you were only hurting yourself. Like any hack, when you're using it - you can immediately pick up on someone else using it. - Im glad Secrets hacked the client and fixed the use of ShowEQ. But even now, through the grape vine of this forum - There is apparently a hack for that hack so people can keep using it. Caught only when a fake NPC location is given, but never spawned. Then the unmentioned tool that modifies a VPN to allow you to connect multiple accounts from the same location with minimal lag - even though the accounts werent allowed to be online from the same IP. (Im not network savvy, but I believe thats how it works.)
The downfall of DA was when a large group of its core members found a Dupe and the GM's took them out. That shit made me quit the game in hindsight. Abacab, or Raren? Cant remember which, ran up to one of the other guys in on it and handed him a naggy cloak, mana stone and some planar robe and he shortly poofed after that. Rogean popped his ass and kicked him - later asking for all that shit he traded back. I found out in the P99 forum that not only was it that group, but a group of people in IB were popped and a few people from other guilds. Who knows where it originally came from cause all of them claim to have found it first, and maybe they did. The interesting part about that though, was that most of the IB members that were banned were unbanned shortly after that. We can assume it was cause a lack of proof, but was it really?... I mean c'mon. No one else was unbanned, but they magically were?.. Really? gtfo
The only reason I bring up those incidents up is because out of the entire time I was an Officer in that guild - DA rarely was alone in the shadiness and in fact, was in my opinion a much better guild to be in for the person that wasnt a whiny little bitch. IB continued to lead the way and was often the source of so much shit that its hard to believe you didnt know about any of it. If anything, you werent in the leadership circle and had dick all clue about what was really happening. Notice I never pointed out all the petty shit that took place between our guilds.
--- Side Story, Edit ---
You guys took a Magician from us that used to be part of DA which made me question the entire membership of your guild. The reason he quit DA was because one of our members played an Erudite Cleric and had the two small lines under his eye. Something was happening in the news at the time that was all about thugs/gangsters and it got brought up in voice chat that Kadeem was a Crip and he couldnt figure out why we were saying that, only till he realized that the two lines under his eyes were reminiscent of Tear Drops. It really isnt that funny when I talk about it now, but for the majority of the guild - people laughed and thought it was funny. Especially when Kadeem embraced it and him and Necrious were Rob and Big or some shit. The Magician on the other hand, a white, very feminine sounding guy took the most offense of all to it. The black guy in the guild was even laughing, so it made the magician look all the more fucking dumb because no one ever said a fucking thing about black people. You werent a magician by chance, were you Dabamf? ... Kidding, kidding!
The European guild, the swedish guild, all of them... we used them for their numbers and it would secure us a kill - losing only 1 item out of everything that dropped for their help. Usually, plenty happy to take the shittiest of the items. Which is basically where we recruited from and Im pretty sure I was called a Scalper by more than one guild leader. This, imo, is when we started pushing IB's shit in and beating them to spawns. (When you have people from all over the world in your guild - it didnt matter when a boss popped.)
DA didnt start to become shit till a guild member that was friends with people in IB got ShowEQ from a special "Bard" officer in IB (without throwing out names directly). Which proved that IB had been using ShowEQ for quite some time. I thought fair game, myself - because ShowEQ was a pretty big edge. Hell, I even used it. I would be helping someone get a Pegasus Cloak and even then, we would be racing IB members to Pegasus Spawns. Like.. wtf? Thats when you really knew that ShowEQ was just a widely used secret among your top guilds and if you werent using it - you were only hurting yourself. Like any hack, when you're using it - you can immediately pick up on someone else using it. - Im glad Secrets hacked the client and fixed the use of ShowEQ. But even now, through the grape vine of this forum - There is apparently a hack for that hack so people can keep using it. Caught only when a fake NPC location is given, but never spawned. Then the unmentioned tool that modifies a VPN to allow you to connect multiple accounts from the same location with minimal lag - even though the accounts werent allowed to be online from the same IP. (Im not network savvy, but I believe thats how it works.)
The downfall of DA was when a large group of its core members found a Dupe and the GM's took them out. That shit made me quit the game in hindsight. Abacab, or Raren? Cant remember which, ran up to one of the other guys in on it and handed him a naggy cloak, mana stone and some planar robe and he shortly poofed after that. Rogean popped his ass and kicked him - later asking for all that shit he traded back. I found out in the P99 forum that not only was it that group, but a group of people in IB were popped and a few people from other guilds. Who knows where it originally came from cause all of them claim to have found it first, and maybe they did. The interesting part about that though, was that most of the IB members that were banned were unbanned shortly after that. We can assume it was cause a lack of proof, but was it really?... I mean c'mon. No one else was unbanned, but they magically were?.. Really? gtfo
The only reason I bring up those incidents up is because out of the entire time I was an Officer in that guild - DA rarely was alone in the shadiness and in fact, was in my opinion a much better guild to be in for the person that wasnt a whiny little bitch. IB continued to lead the way and was often the source of so much shit that its hard to believe you didnt know about any of it. If anything, you werent in the leadership circle and had dick all clue about what was really happening. Notice I never pointed out all the petty shit that took place between our guilds.
--- Side Story, Edit ---
You guys took a Magician from us that used to be part of DA which made me question the entire membership of your guild. The reason he quit DA was because one of our members played an Erudite Cleric and had the two small lines under his eye. Something was happening in the news at the time that was all about thugs/gangsters and it got brought up in voice chat that Kadeem was a Crip and he couldnt figure out why we were saying that, only till he realized that the two lines under his eyes were reminiscent of Tear Drops. It really isnt that funny when I talk about it now, but for the majority of the guild - people laughed and thought it was funny. Especially when Kadeem embraced it and him and Necrious were Rob and Big or some shit. The Magician on the other hand, a white, very feminine sounding guy took the most offense of all to it. The black guy in the guild was even laughing, so it made the magician look all the more fucking dumb because no one ever said a fucking thing about black people. You werent a magician by chance, were you Dabamf? ... Kidding, kidding!
Dabaf u was a necro yo!
