Pussification in America: Political Correctness is Gay

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TrollfaceDeux

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no bro, not every school should be charter schools. not every kids are salvageable. there are kids that will fall through the cracks and yesthey should be left behind. that is the clear cold truth. more charter schools for kids and parents who give a shit. leave those retards who don't give a shit behind. no need for the other kids to fall through the cracks because of them.
 

JVIRUS

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Teachers seem ridiculously hamstrung...The systems budget is tied to exactly how many students there are, thus incentivizing disruptive students being kept.

As for the "discipline your kids, parents!" angle I find that interesting, considering schooling is compulsory from a young age until well into the teen years. By the time a kid is 10 I wonder if they've spent more time in school or with their families.

School admins constantly apply their own weird styles of discipline and will never fail to remind parents who the educators are during meetings. My favorite is a "disorganized child" with the recommendation of medication being emphasized, or one kid getting whaled on but both being suspended is great, too.

Why not just cut the bullshit and just expel problem students more often. Perhaps the students will actually value public education when it can be denied to them, even if only temporarily.
 

OneofOne

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Maybe it's just me paying more attention recently, but there does seem to be an increase in students being expelled. The problem is they are being expelled for the absolute stupidest shit while the true troublemakers and I-don't-give-a-shit kids seem to remain.

I do agree though, that keeping everyone moving as slow as the slowest kids just fucks up everyone, and is fucking asinine.
 

Soriak_sl

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There's a whole lot wrong with public education, not least of which is the idea that you can teach kids more by keeping their asses in the seat longer. I've been giving guest lectures in low-income schools and those kids have 5 minute breaks between classes, which they spend walking swiftly (running is prohibited) to their next class. That leaves no time at all to take a break. They do that for 4 hours, then they get a chaotic lunch break, followed by another 4 hours or so. Yeah, that's not going to work. There is just no way to absorb all that information. Then there's homework... which is frequently busywork that doesn't actually help retain information. And you can't necessarily blame teachers: given how many classes they teach, they might have 200+ students in any given semester. You cannot have an essay every other week, or really any substantial assignment. That is, of course, assuming the local school board hasn't prohibited homework entirely. You might as well write off those students right now, because there's no way to get enough practice with content during school hours to retain anything.

Then there's the constant, standardized testing. Children are being frightened about howcrucialthose tests are, when nobody will ever give a shit about them -- except for whatever state or federal funding is tied to those test results. The students themselves don't benefit from it. So they waste time preparing for tests that don't matter to them, become afraid of taking tests (thus hurting performance on exams that will matter), don't have time for actually useful stuff, and supposedly brainy subjects like economics displace the arts -- because you can come up with a standardized test for the former, but not the latter.

As if that weren't enough, you have organizations with agendas unrelated to teaching that just need to get themselves involved. Technology grants are huge. So a classroom is going to be equipped with a smart board (that adds nothing of value) while the students don't have textbooks from this century -- and in any case, they don't get to take those home anyway. But there's a cart with laptops coming around so every student has one of those during class. From what I've seen, it takes 15 minutes to get everyone set up with those, which kills a quarter of the available class time for... no idea what, actually.

Since I'm ranting, I'll also add something about personal finance classes. They're primarily funded by financial institutions and they offer nothing of educational value. They'll probably teach the formula for compound interest, but that doesn't make you financially savvy. And you'll not find any mention of when it makes sense to default, which blatantly outs these programs as propaganda rather than education. Anything related to economics or finance should always talk about tradeoffs... and they exist when defaulting, too.

But fear not. Despite evidence showing that students who have gone through these personal finance "classes" do no better than other students, the courses are becoming required for getting a high school degree in more and more states. Which is only slightly less dumb than the graduation requirement that you fill out a college application. (The people who can't be bothered to do it voluntarily really should not be taking on student loans to go to college.)

And in all of that, the teachers are pretty much powerless. They have to teach a standardized curriculum after learning, even in shitty education programs, that everything they do in the classroom is exactly what studies say should NOT be done. Is it any surprise that people with better options get the hell out of that line of work?

Maybe it's just me paying more attention recently, but there does seem to be an increase in students being expelled. The problem is they are being expelled for the absolute stupidest shit while the true troublemakers and I-don't-give-a-shit kids seem to remain.
And there is that -- including students expelled for what would otherwise be protected by the first amendment. Nothing tells kids that they should be critical thinkers than the threat of a suspension if they dare question school policy or take a stance that could, somehow, be construed as subverting administration. The way these rules are applied also tells us something about school administrators, of course. It's pretty pathetic if someone gets riled up over a 16 year old insulting them...
 

Alex

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I am honestly a proud result of public schooling. I went to a public school area that is historically a poor area of the country as well - far, far east of Cincinnati.

The complaints above are understandable, but the kids that give a shit - with the parents that also do the same - are golden. All of my classmates that were in the "higher" level education classes have gone on to do positive things with the except few that decided to be stay-at-home moms (maybe there's nothing wrong with that, but one girl in particular was #1 out of 300+ valedictorian). Public school teaches you how to deal with real shit at a young age - overwhelming criticism, making it in a caste system (bureaucracy) and standing out by your own merits.
 

Big Phoenix

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Let's not kid ourselves, school today is nothing more than daycare and a social program meant to keep kids occupied.
 

Kaige

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I work in construction, one of the last bastions of political incorrectness left in our society. Suffice to say, its pretty much a man's playground. I could easily say its 99.9% of that, and get away with that exaggeration. Despite that, the rare female does show up on a job site, and shewillbecome an object of discussion amongst the sex-starved natives of the tribes, and caution has to be exercised as to how you operate. Some of the trades like to decorate their trailers and gang boxes with a few Playboy centerfolds. Those disappear in that situation.

I mention this, because it leads into a bizarre scenario that developed within the local plumbers' union.

On a data center I was working on with a previous company, I came across a member of the plumbers who was a transsexual. Apparently after quite some years in construction, this middle-aged gentleman decided the guy's life wasn't for him anymore. So using the excellent benefits of his union's health plan, managed to undergo the transition. To say...she...was a little "rough on the eyes", might be an attempt at kindness. Sylvester Stallone with your grandmother's proficiency in make-up is likely the most accurate description.

Obviously, political correctness had to be exercised, and was the subject of a rant that the plumbers' foreman decided to vent in our trailer during one lunch break.

This is one of the best things he said:

"Do you know how fucking stupid it is to have to tear down all the girls in your trailer because some fag decided he wanted to be a bitch? So becausehewanted to be ashe, I have to accommodatehereven thoughshelooks more like ahimthan any fucking woman I've ever known."
 

BrutulTM

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I am honestly a proud result of public schooling. I went to a public school area that is historically a poor area of the country as well - far, far east of Cincinnati.

The complaints above are understandable, but the kids that give a shit - with the parents that also do the same - are golden. All of my classmates that were in the "higher" level education classes have gone on to do positive things with the except few that decided to be stay-at-home moms (maybe there's nothing wrong with that, but one girl in particular was #1 out of 300+ valedictorian). Public school teaches you how to deal with real shit at a young age - overwhelming criticism, making it in a caste system (bureaucracy) and standing out by your own merits.
It's not about the school, it's about the parents. As you showed, and plenty of other people do as well, if your parents actually raised you and made education a priority you can do well no matter what school you go to. If your mom is a crackhead and your dad is a drug dealer that you don't know, you are fucked no matter what school you go to.
 

Skanda

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"Do you know how fucking stupid it is to have to tear down all the girls in your trailer because some fag decided he wanted to be a bitch? So becausehewanted to be ashe, I have to accommodatehereven thoughshelooks more like ahimthan any fucking woman I've ever known."
Apparently Gabe from Penny Arcade managed to step onto a transgender landmine the other day.

Gabe_sl said:
I should have walked away from my computer at this point and played with my dog but instead I put on my asshole hat and went to work. I said if you use the word "cis" don't bother tweeting me. This brought back another twitter argument from a week or so ago in which I defended a game about female masturbation. This game only included vaginas which I thought was reasonable given the point of the game was to teach women how to masturbate. It was pointed out to me that not all women have vaginas and I will admit right here in front of everyone that this came as a big shock to me. Some people called the game exclusionary because it did not take into account the existence of transexuals. I said I think a game about female masturbation that only has vaginas made sense because women have vaginas and men have a penis. This was not meant to invalidate the trans community but I was told it did. I apologized but I was labeled "transphobic" and so when all this stuff came up yesterday I think it was just more fuel to the fire. I was super pissed yesterday. I was called a bigot and I think if I wasn't pissed that would probably be bad. The thing is I wasn't mad at trans people or gay people or whatever. I'm not going to go into the intricacies of my family here on twitter but being called a bigot really bothers me. I was mad at the assholes who have no fucking idea who I am but when you go hard on twitter plenty of innocent people get caught in the crossfire. I'm very good at being a jerk. It's sort if my superpower. When it comes to Penny Arcade it has served me well but it's not okay when I make a bunch of people who are already marginalized feel like shit.
So I guess from now on any game featuring "paddling the pink canoe" needs to feature dicks too just in case your MtF gets offended that a game aimed at people with vaginas doesn't show how to beat your meat as well.
 

tad10

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Apparently Gabe from Penny Arcade managed to step onto a transgender landmine the other day.
Pefect example of title of thread. Transgender is hardly 'marginalized' today as Gabe would have it. Twenty years ago? Sure. Nowdays, nope. If you're a white male pre-op 10/11 year old transgender in 4th grade you're a popstar in today's public schools. If you're a white male in 4th grade you're just a future rapist.

Anyway, while I'm not normally into schadenfreude, I won't lie here: I like how he caves in at the end as the PA forums are a cesspool of suck and I'm not a huge fan of PA/PAX generally so I'm delighted to see Gabe pussy out. Also, nobody is ever "innocent on twitter" - it's a purer medium for narcissism than facebook ever was.
 

TrollfaceDeux

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reading twitter makes me want to shoot bunch of people in the mall.

EDIT: Think i read a father's blog a few weeks ago...basically wrote about his concern for his kid who is four years old...he worries that he might become a rapist one day...

jimmies just exploded....
 

Fadaar

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Pefect example of title of thread. Transgender is hardly 'marginalized' today as Gabe would have it. Twenty years ago? Sure. Nowdays, nope. If you're a white male pre-op 10/11 year old transgender in 4th grade you're a popstar in today's public schools. If you're a white male in 4th grade you're just a future rapist.

Anyway, while I'm not normally into schadenfreude, I won't lie here: I like how he caves in at the end as the PA forums are a cesspool of suck and I'm not a huge fan of PA/PAX generally so I'm delighted to see Gabe pussy out. Also, nobody is ever "innocent on twitter" - it's a purer medium for narcissism than facebook ever was.
I wanted to enjoy their forums a while back, I really did. But there's just so much pretentious douche-ness that exudes everywhere I couldn't handle it.
 

supertouch_sl

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when i think of political correctness, i think of calling black people "african-american." people who challenge political correctness like to go out of their way to offend others and seem to lack compassion. i'm not sure how that's a good thing.

and what makes you think transgender people ARE NOT marginalized?
 

Xeldar

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The burden of proof is on you to prove the claim (trannies are marginalized). So load up on your best anecdotal evidence, and appeals to emotion
 

Gavinmad

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Isn't tranny short for transvestite and different than people who are actually transgender?
Your average person probably doesn't even know what a transvestite is, but yeah tranny was originally short for transvestite, since transgender is a relatively new thing.
 

BrutulTM

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Apparently Gabe from Penny Arcade managed to step onto a transgender landmine the other day.
His only mistake was responding to that nonsense. If he just ignored it they would have stopped after a day or two and no one would have remembered it a week later. People with a large internet following need to keep in mind not to get wound up because one anonymous retard gets mad about something when 99.9% of their following doesn't give a damn.