TrollfaceDeux
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Pussification in America: Political Correctness is Gay
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Mist
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This is ridiculous. There's a shitload of rich kids in private schools who are derpy as fuck and incapable of rational thought, where there's a ton of kids stuck in shitty schools who could do much better in a different environment.
TrollfaceDeux
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Charter schools:In the United States, charter schools areprimary or secondary schools that receive public money (and may, like other schools, also receive private donations).They are subject to some of the rules, regulations, and statutes that apply to other public schools, but generally have more flexibility than traditional public schools. Charter schools are expected to produce certain results, set forth in each school's charter.[1] Charter schools are attended by choice.[2]
Private schools: use your imagination here.
Tanoomba
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I think some information is missing from this story. Wouldn't the transgendered plumber have worked in the same environment that all the other plumbers worked in? Why would she all of a sudden become offended by girlie posters after undergoing surgery to become a woman? "Obviously, political correctness had to be exercised"... why? Did she request that?
I still don't get what the foreman's pissed about either. Sure, everybody likes to personalize their workspace, but displaying pornography where you work would be considered unprofessional in just about any field. Should it be not only considered acceptable butprotectedin male-dominated fields? That doesn't sound stupid to anyone else? For fuck's sake, you can look at titties at home when you're not being paid to do a job. But judging from the hate-laden speech this foreman made, doesn't sound like being professional is his strong point.
Talk about "pussification" all you want, but I don't feel sorry for people whose boats are being rocked because they live in a broken past. It's not professionally acceptable to use terms like "fag" and "bitch", nor to insult how a coworker looks because you had to take titty pictures down. Construction workers and plumbers are essential to our society. I have great respect for the work they do and the countless hours they've put into perfecting their complex and incredibly demanding crafts. None of that has anything to do with disrespecting a coworker or throwing a hissy fit because it's been suggested that work isn't the best place for porn. The "man's playground" days are numbered. Get the fuck over it.
chaos
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Skanda
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Tanoomba
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You're totally right. Men need to come together and form an organization who'll fight to protect men's rights to beat their wives without fear of being murdered in retaliation. This is totally a fight worth fighting.
Personally, I would think you'd have more respect for this woman. We've all acknowledged women are generally physically weaker than men. Here's a woman who felt her life was in danger, knew she was incapable of taking her aggressor head-on, and instead used her resources to solve her own problem when nobody else could. If she had stabbed her husband in self-defense, would you have had a problem with that?
You can rightfully point out that we don't know exactly what happened between Doucet and her husband, nor do we know what happened between her and the police prior to the hitman-hiring setup. The article definitely should have gone into more detail about that as it's pretty important in explaining her actions. We can't just assume she's being honest about feeling trapped with her life in danger, but that works both ways. We can't just assume she's making it up or decide what alternatives she had without knowing what she went through either. All we can do is allow the legal system to go through the process and make a decision, which it did. I guess whatever needed to be proven was proven... that's how the legal system works, right?
In your defense, that comedian story was fucking ridiculous. Nobody should be awarded money for being offended, and if you're that pre-disposed to PTSD, stay the fuck away from people whose job is to offend you. Holy shit.
Tanoomba
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What are you saying, that we need to "protect" a man's ability to be a "man's man" in a male-dominated field?
Sounds like pussification to me.
Times change. Sometimes these changes are awesome (see: the internet), sometimes they're frustrating, scary, or even demasculating.
You can't fight progress (well, you can if you're in the 1%, but that's another story).
Get over it.
McCheese
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Pussification in America at work. A guy is a huge art fan and has one of those really nice, coffee-table-style art books you can buy at The National Gallery, Metropolitan Museum of Art, etc., the kind of book you buy as a gift for an art lover. He loans it to a coworker who is also a huge fan of art, and this coworker leaves it on his desk. Someone who works nearby happens to see the book on the desk and starts flipping through it and sees nakedness within (i.e ART). This fucker complains to management, and the two coworkers get written up by HR for bringing inappropriate material into the office.
Tanoomba
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If she had brandished a kitchen knife while her husband attacked her and he died in the scuffle, this wouldn't be an issue. Perhaps she didn't want to wait for it to get that far, perhaps she didn't have faith in her own ability to be able to physically defend herself, perhaps she thought she would be far more likely to be the one who ended up dead in such a situation. She tried to hire a hitman to protect herself, and the law apparently agreed that this was acceptable in her circumstances. It doesn't matter whether or not I defend her actions, the legal system already did.
JVIRUS
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Who cares what other people find "professional" or not. Calling it pussification is deliberately inflammatory, yes, but that is done to call attention to the issue. I believe the point of these kinds of stories is to show how supposedly in the interest of tolerance our society is weirdly becoming intolerant of behavior that used to be considered perfectly acceptable--mostly concepts associated with stereotypical manliness. Because one person has a sexual revelation the work place has to be changed, at all? To what benefit?
Special treatment breeds contempt, by being disallowed to rip on an obvious train wreck of a tranny in the name of political correctness the rule maker is in effect saying "this person is inferior and cannot be treated like a 'normal' employee'. Reverse engineer politically correct policies and they resemble handicaps. The U.S.A seems obsessed with this shit, just another affirmative action/positive discrimination pill crammed down our throats.
If I met Lana Wachowski and said "him" with Lana in earshot, am I an insensitive ass living in a broken past? Could it have been an honest mistake?
As for why political correctness HAD to be implemented;hostile environment sexual harassmentcannot be fucked with.
That comment about the man's playground shit is just fucking weird, man. Hyper masculinity seems perfectly acceptable in the movies, shows, songs and literature that dominate popular culture but are intolerable for the common man.
Tanoomba
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Except for your use of the word "decline", that statement is completely correct.
Guess who's on the losing end of this cultural shift?
Misogynists, racists, "macho" men, even (*gasp*) internet jocks.
You just keep fighting to defend them, though, I'm sure it'll work out in the end.
Sorry, Timmy, everybody has to grow up some time.
Get over it.
ZyyzYzzy
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She had to resort to hiring a hitman and that is acceptable? The hormone replacement therapy must be having an adverse affect on your thought process.
Also, did you skip over the part where it was stated that her complaints to the police and others were inconsistent?
TrollfaceDeux
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His side of the story.Michael Ryan was awarded custody of the childandMichael Ryan was never called to testify against Nicole Ryan's false allegations.
Fuck you, S.C.C. Fucking disgrace.
Fuck you, S.C.C. Fucking disgrace.
Tanoomba
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As a teacher, I can't hang pornography in either my office or my classroom. My wife works at a bakery and can't put up pornography there either. My mom works in retail and doesn't put up pornography in her shop. My father actually does work in construction (tile work) but you'd be hard-pressed to find any porn anywhere near where he works. My brother's a busboy and... you get the idea.
Now, saying that construction workers/plumbers should be able to put up porn because historically it was considered acceptable isasking for special treatment, exactly what you claim to be against. Seriously, give me one good reason why these guys should have the "right" to put up porn where they work. You say that "hostile environment sexual harassment cannot be fucked with", but apparently it's totally OK as long as no girls are around. This is why I was wondering whether or not the transgendered individual had filed a complaint or not. I actually think the foreman referring to her as "fag" and "bitch" creates a much more hostile work environment than some posters, which is why this guy is not the hero of the story he's portrayed as being. These "concepts associated with stereotypical manliness" of which you speak have no relevance any moreexceptin pop culture, and that's not only OK, it's better for everyone,including men. Yes, things that were once considered acceptable no longer are. Blacks-only fountains, women being unable to vote, and smoking while pregnant were all once considered completely acceptable. Now they're not. Sometimes these changes piss some people off. Like I keep saying:
Get over it.