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I might have posted this already, it's a pretty sweet map. Anyone want to help me out and circle what areas are part of which game?
I can't remember which game Waterdeep is in, if any. Seems like it'd be in NWN?
Off the top of my head, I think green is BG1+2 and yellow is Siege of Dragonspear. Blue and white are my guesses at what NWN and IWD have from what little I've played. They've also got their sequels that I know nothing about. I imagine NWN might well cover a lot more ground than what I have here.
If any other games (TOEE?) fall into this same area feel free to point that out too.
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Was curious, so looked it up, ToEE is in a different world setting, Greyhawk.
Faerûn is the setting that the Sword Coast is on and is used for many/most games. BG2 isn't really on that map you have, it is in Amn, to the south. Also, the NWN 2 main campaign is around Waterdeep, if I recall. It's been a while, so I don't recall all the locations on any of the games, to be able to highlight each one.
The huge Faerûn map I am most familiar with (used it for a game called Dominions 3) is from the Wiki: HERE
IWD and NWN 1/2 are both on this map (NWN 1/2 xpacs are not necessarily here):
BG 1 and 2 are here:
Here is another map, where someone highlighted the "nations" of Faerûn:
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I believe Undrentide would have been just a little ways east off the first maps edge, straight east of Neverwinter, maybe a little south. The Anauroch desert ceased to be a desert at some point between 3rd and 4th. In HotU you start in Waterdeep and then spoilers.
Mask of the Betrayer is on the opposite side of the world, Storm of Zehir takes place along the Sword Coast depicted in those two maps as well as Samarach in the far south (ceased to exist when 4th edition released).
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Link to the map got broken, so I fixed it. It's huge, so you can see everything when expanded. The Imgur map is also huge, if you open just the picture in a new tab, but it has the overlay in the way.
It looks like the map is the 3.5d map since Anauroch is still a huge desert and Samarach is still on the map.
I didn't remember exactly where Mask of the Betrayer was, so looked it up. It's in Rashemen and Thay (close to the east edge of the two maps):
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Sounds like it's about what I expected for the Sword Coast, with NWN taking up a lot of that middle ground I wasn't sure about.
Noticed NWN has two expansions included in the Enhanced Edition. I know NWN2's expac Mask of the Betrayer is a must, but what about these? Worth bothering with? (Y/N/Only if you love the main game). I'll default to playing them unless they're particularly unnecessary, because the actual game doesn't really light my world on fire. I think I definitely prefer Icewind Dale. Still interesting to see the early years of 3D CRPGs though.
Noticed NWN has two expansions included in the Enhanced Edition. I know NWN2's expac Mask of the Betrayer is a must, but what about these? Worth bothering with? (Y/N/Only if you love the main game). I'll default to playing them unless they're particularly unnecessary, because the actual game doesn't really light my world on fire. I think I definitely prefer Icewind Dale. Still interesting to see the early years of 3D CRPGs though.
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Hordes of the Underdark is the best of the three by quite a bit, and while it assumes that you're continuing into Hordes from Shadows of Undrentide, I always preferred playing it with my character from The Wailing Death for story reasons. Wailing Death is better than Undrentide imo, but not by much.
Level range on the campaigns is
WD - 1 to 18-20
SoU - 1 to 12-15
HotU - 15 to 25-30
Level range on the campaigns is
WD - 1 to 18-20
SoU - 1 to 12-15
HotU - 15 to 25-30
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Sounds like I'll probably just play the main game and then Hordes of the Underdark if I want more. Unless the game totally catches fire with me in the meantime. I barely even got out of the starting areas so far though.
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Wow I think you're right. I had no memory of playing that at all. Watching a YouTube video now.
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Yeah, that there is 7th Saga. Looks like you're playing as generic fighter main Kamil and the old healer guy, which is a very traditional RPG duo. Not sure if I ever used the old healer guy, but he gets a spell called Elixir that's a full heal and can be cast infinitely, so you basically can't lose in the endgame with him. I know I mained the sorceress and brought the dwarf as second when I beat the game. Always wanted to do more plays and try the rest of the cast, but one was tough enough to eke out a win over. We had a little bit of a 7th Saga discussion recently on here, one of the Final Fantasy threads I think. It's actually a really good game, and underrated because most people couldn't handle the hardcore difficulty.
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Green is BG1. BG2 is just to the south and isn't on the map.
Waterdeep is in a NWN2 expansion I think.
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im gonna do berserker for BG1 bro based on this steam thread good classes for a beginner? :: Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition BGEE general discussion (spoilers)
i tried playing it like a decade ago but quit a few hours into it. basicaly starting brand new, i dont remember anything about it
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lol Front Mission 2 also got delayed and we still don't have that or System Shock on console and it's August now
I went Paladin but if I could do it over I would have gone Berserker most likely. The spells weren't as helpful as I expected and he was sitting at 2 points in weapon proficiencies for two games and two expansions, with me wishing I could crank them up to 5 points.
I really let the CRPG Crusade fall off so I'm gonna try to resume it soon. I got caught up in Choice Paralysis between Neverwinter Nights, Planescape, and Icewind Dale and ended up not getting into any of them past their intro areas.