Red Pill Thread 2.0: Neckbeard Revenge

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Famm

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Mist is a lesbian who hasn't even dated for (I think she said) the better part of a decade and basically lives at home in servitude to her mother and only recently decided to even be employed, right? I think her opinions on male-female sexual relations should rank slightly above trollface's.
 

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Mist is a lesbian who hasn't even dated for (I think she said) the better part of a decade and basically lives at home in servitude to her mother and only recently decided to even be employed, right? I think her opinions on male-female sexual relations should rank slightly above trollface's.
Still above Dumar's.
 

Tuco

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Because womenwantto be objects/manipulated. You don't blame men because it's something women want and something that works, and trust me, it works a bazillion times better empirically than any rational gender equalism attitude towards dating (unfortunately - we don't want it to be this way).

There's a famous axiom that if you can keep a 2nd grader entertained, you'll do well with women. That's not a coincidence.
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There should be a sitcom with Mist and Dumar in it as a dysfunctional couple. They are pretty much perfect for each other.
 

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? Did you read where I said I go on a bazillion OKC dates? For a few weeks, I had dates with a different girl every single night.
And what is the end goal of this? (if any) Or is it just to enjoy each night as it comes, and then go home and look towards the next night? Or is it just bragging rights? Or is it just for you to feel better about yourself because the world outside says that if you go out with a different girl every single night somehow you win this game called Being a Man?

I'm not trying to trash, I'm serious. I keep browsing through this and I can't get past the impression that there is big delusion going on. Not that sometimes being delusional is ultimately wrong, but it all smells like a weird system of social interaction religion for men. You guys preach it as ultimate truth with maybe a few exceptions to the rule, but I think you guys seriously have to get out more (and by getting out I mean outside your cultural/social circle, not just going outside) to see that though there may be some good points, it's still flawed. Like pretty much everything else out there.

Then again it may just be that you guys suck at being representatives of this Red Pill philosophy, and I don't expect to find much better info if I go browsing on Reddit.
 

Mist

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Mist is a lesbian who hasn't even dated for (I think she said) the better part of a decade and basically lives at home in servitude to her mother and only recently decided to even be employed, right? I think her opinions on male-female sexual relations should rank slightly above trollface's.
I've pretty much always been employed. I worked in an extremely understaffed IT department for 6 awesome years then at the university doing various shitty shit as a grad student. Honestly should have stayed in IT and just moved somewhere else back when I had a good resume in the field. Even with all the SQL and java work I did, I felt like I was still basically just a computer janitor, and that wasn't me.

I haven't seriously dated since undergrad days. My only real relationship was with a super pretty weeaboo chick who forced me to watch Neon Genesis Evangelion with her all the time even though she had already seen every episode like 6 times. :/ Eventually it just wasn't worth it, and she was a completely terrible, wholly amoral person with no soul like all weeaboos.
 

Tuco

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I think we're 0 for 1 on people claiming to be chicks here and also work in IT. Definitely going to need proof before I let this charade go on any longer. iirc Jefflys also talked shit about feminism.
 

Famm

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I think we're 0 for 1 on people claiming to be chicks here and also work in IT. Definitely going to need proof before I let this charade go on any longer. iirc Jefflys also talked shit about feminism.
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a_skeleton_03

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I think we're 0 for 1 on people claiming to be chicks here and also work in IT. Definitely going to need proof before I let this charade go on any longer. iirc Jefflys also talked shit about feminism.
He laid into me about a "rape" that "she" experienced and also an abortion I think.
 

Gavinmad

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He laid into me about a "rape" that "she" experienced and also an abortion I think.
You mean this story?

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It's being afraid to report it because it happened at a party with X going around (of which I had partaken), and not wanting to admit to a crime to report a crime or sit through the trial where the defendant's lawyer is going to do his damndest to make me look like a vindictive slut to get his client off the hook.

It's dropping out of college because you saw the guy that did it every day on campus and had a panic attack every time he looked your way.

It's going to your pastor about it because you have to talk to someone, and getting a lecture about how if I were a better Christian woman, I wouldn't have even been in that situation in the first place, and that God gives us all trials and tribulations that we have to deal with.

It's about having every single second of it come flooding back to me when I'm late and that fucking tests showed two lines.

It's about having to go to Planned Parenthood and showing up on a day when a protest was happening, and having words like slut, whore, baby-killer, etc. thrown at me when I was already hating myself, because I couldn't shake the idea that this was my fault.

It's about losing contact with some of my more religious family because in their eyes I killed a baby, and what led to it isn't as important as the fact that I'm a murderous slut in their eyes, never mind that I had been a good little virgin up until that point and the only reason I was pregnant was because some asshole thought that I just didn't know how good sex was on E when I was telling him no and I was too afraid to make a scene.

It's having to always have a bar of Xanax on me in case I encounter a trigger so I can stop reliving it, and being unable to really have a rational conversation about the topic without being very, very careful with my words and position lest I set myself off.

It's about crying while I type this out at work and telling my coworkers that my allergies are fuckin' killing me.

It's about the absolute rage and venom I can't stop myself from feeling when I hear some asshat like Todd Akin, Ron Paul, or Paul Ryan describe my rape as not legitimate because I apparently didn't fight hard enough to prevent it to make it "forcible" or "legitimate", or that my body somehow knew I wasn't raped and let me get pregnant.

It's about me seeing your joke, knowing it's a joke, knowing that I have no reason to be angry with a joke like that, that it's completely irrational to do so, and that I still had to step out for a cigarette and calm the fuck down before I wrote this out so I didn't make even more of an ass out of myself, because my pastor actually implied that me being raped was my fault.

It's having to live with the knowledge every single day of my life of the choice I made, and having it bear on me even more so when later unrelated medical issues made it so that the pregnancy I aborted would be the only one my body would ever carry.

It's all those things and more. It's not just the act. The assault is just the beginning. It's the losing the ability to remain in control of my emotions and have rational thought about a serious topic in this country, and knowing that it was ripped away from me by someone else...and he's got a wife and kids and a good job and may not even think he raped me because I was too cowardly to make a scene and assert my right to keep his dick the fuck outta me.

There are not many guys, no matter how good they are, that will ever understand that perspective, and people who haven't experienced it should thank everything they hold dear that they will never, ever, ever be able to fully understand how little perspective they have.

And now each and every one of you had better be responding to this with a fuckin' PMS or rape joke, or I'm gonna lose my faith in FOH.
 

Mist

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I really don't care what gender people think I am.

That said, no juicy abortions for me.

But on that note, Dumar needs to prove that he isn't Travis the Moonstar.
 

Antarius

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Because it presents a harsher reality than people are accustomed to or are willing to even consider being possibly accurate.

It is essentially a framework for assimilating all information on its own merits rather than automatically accepting precepts and practices from institutions or people that appear to be legitimate.

It forces you to be critical of your every move as well as those of every single person you interact with (whether its their words you're hearing or reading, the actions you see them make, or the relationships they try to build with you).

In short, it forces accountability. People aren't comfortable with that. At this point, the current generations that are the majority of our population (Boomers, Gen-X, and Millennials) are so accustomed to sucking on the teat of big government and operating under the shadow of its all-seeing eye as a supposedly benevolent father-figure.

Women obviously reject it because it exposes all the flaws of their ideology and behavior: solipsism, favored legal status, favored employment policies, and a guaranteed floor put in place by the government and funded by the garnished wages, alimony, and child support payments taken from the pockets of men. It's to their disadvantage to acknowledge it, so they fight it tooth and nail and do their best to associate it with terminology or imagery that both men and women view as unfavorable ("creepy," "rapey," misogynistic, abusive, and the like).

In short, it encourages men to be independent individuals. The interests at large have learned from history that such a culture is dangerous for those at the top, so today you see the judicial branch, mass media system, legislative branch, and major multinational corporations whose very livelihood depends on you remaining an ignorant participant in their system collude to push things farther in this direction.

The worst is being en route to or a new member of that not-so-informal oligarchy thanks to a healthy dose of good fortune and your own hard work and being torn between raising a loud voice on behalf of the truth (and risking your position) or passively unplugging and operating (largely) behind the scenes ? la the Koch brothers, Karl Rove, etc.

When it comes to the general populace, people don't like having their reality jostled. It's uncomfortable and frightening, really. Given the option, people opt to literally pull the hood further over their own eyes because it's more comfortable. That's why the pill analogy from the Matrix films is so perfectly fitting.

As to your point about people agreeing with it when presented in the real world, it's because they're responding to the 55% nonverbal cues. If you're even moderately attractive, reasonable, and articulate, it's hard for a listener not to agree because their memory suffers a deluge of experiences in their own life that corroborate your points. Online, it's very easy to attack an argument because the detractor can take as much time as they want to craft the perfect statement, plus they won't lose out to all the markers a higher-value person exudes.
Red pill truth.
 

Antarius

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They don't disagree with it, in fact they believe it does work. But that it's predatory, manipulative, and dishonest. That in practicing TRP men do damage to themselves and not just others, so even the MGTOW crowd are harming themselves with toxic ideology.

They don't disagree with it, but believe it only works on "certain" individuals. The women who sleep with us for reasons unrelated to TRP attitudes and methods, and the women who are susceptible to the "coercive" practices of evil men. So TRP men are generalizing an entire sex based on flimsy and incorrect evidence, and victimizing women that need protecting.

TRP doesn't work, NAWALT. This can be the flipside of #2 or the singular reason for the disbelief in TRP. TRP are practicing a massive confirmation bias because they can only get with a certain type of girl. The ones whom TRP works on. All the rest of the women of planet are not attracted to any of the same things as those girls, and nothing TRP says makes sense.

TRP doesn't work, and it's a cult. TRP members gather to circle jerk in their sad echo chamber of misogyny. All while convincing themselves of their own superiority and ignoring all counter evidence to their claims or appropriating good science to draw bad conclusions. TRP cultists take this wild speculation as fact and convince other weak minded and sexually unsuccessful men to join with the promise of improving their lives and getting them laid.

TRP does and doesn't work. Parts of TRP make sense. Improve personal grooming habits, exercise, understand diet, become more social and outgoing. Parts of TRP are insane, cruel, or dangerous. Playing relationship chicken, gas lighting, concurrent relationships with or without partners knowledge, use of tactics that undermine self esteem in young women.

TRP is full blown AIDS. TRP doesn't work. TRP is hateful rape promotion. TRP provides a home for pedophiles and statutory rapists. TRP is the patriarchy distilled. TRP is violent and abusive. TRP is degrading and insulting to women.

TRP doesn't work, because it didn't work for them. They tried everything we said or maybe even attended some boot camps but it was too hateful and cultish and now they are happily dating the girl of their dreams. No thanks to TRP.
We've so far had every single argument in this thread except for the last one. Anyone ever tried incorporating red pill ideals into their life and not been happy with the results?