Red Pill Thread 2.0: Neckbeard Revenge

You realize that "Most women who cheat never get found out" is at odds with your message right? Hypergamy isn't about cheating. It's about trading up. If you're trading up you're not leaving your current partner until you've secured a new one. That would imply eventually the truth always comes out.

Antarius_sl said:

No, it's a fancy word meaning that a woman will go after both the best provider she is able to get to commit to her, as well as the sexiest man she is able to fuck.

Rarely are those two in the same person. Usually she will go after the sexiest men from about 16-29, starting at about 26 she'll start looking for a better provider.

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Humans do this, not just women. Your study that shows men ages 18-45 unilaterally find young women physically attractive does not prove in the slightest that a 35+ year old man is going to prefer a 21 year old woman to settle down with. Rofl -- out of my group of 4-5 good male friends, most of us are in our late 20s and we would be very very wary of pursuing a woman that wasn't a college grad. Its just such a large life experience gap that its a huge turn off. I absolutely guarantee you none of my buddies will be chasing a 22 year old when he is 45. We want our girlfriends/wives to be PEERS, someone to challenge us and to hold us to higher standards -- we do not want them to think ("Ohhhh cooooool you have your own place? Let me suck your dick.")

My point is -- most young men are willing to deal with a hot and crazy woman because everything is short-term, marriage isn't on the table, and young men do not react appropriately to consequences (e.g., risking pregnancy with a crazy chick). Once we grow up, we start to recognize all the shit that can go wrong through casual sex and realize that while young/hot women are young/hot because its a tautology, their limited life experience is a little obnoxious and they'll never be a peer in a partnership. My wife makes me challenge myself in every area of my life, and I hope I do the same for her. This is how a partership excels, and its the best part of marriage! Through Dumar's logic, I'm acting irrational because as my ability to command a younger/hotter girl's attention rises, I'm going to write myself out of the dating market for a used-up whore who rode the cock-carousel.

Or, maybe I'm giving up the limited perks of casual sex with strangers in exchange to build a life-long partnership with a respectable woman, establish a lineage, and unite against an uncaring world.

I still basically think it comes out as calling women whores, since it implies that only women look to upgrade, and do it in the most underhanded way possible.

I'm about to turn 40. My current girlfriend is 32 and that's realistically about as young as I'd consider going. The gap in maturity is becoming a problem, as I found out when I was chasing a 27 year old for a while.

Antarius_sl said:

No, it's a fancy word meaning that a woman will go after both the best provider she is able to get to commit to her, as well as the sexiest man she is able to fuck.

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I'm sorry... where do you fall into this equation again?

ZyyzYzzy_sl said:

So in deadeyes' and dumar's world view women can not support themselves. They must rely on men to provide everything? They dont work?

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No. That's actually not what they are saying and there is very ample evidence out there to support what they are saying. Which is that women prefer men who are more successful than they themselves are and can take on the role of "provider". Even if the woman is successful herself.

Khane_sl said:

No. That's actually not what they are saying and there is very ample evidence out there to support what they are saying. Which is that women prefer men who are more successful than they themselves are and can take on the role of "provider". Even if the women is successful herself.

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Again, that's not a woman only thing. In general, people prefer to hook up with successful people.

Duppin_sl said:

Again, that's not a woman only thing. In general, people prefer to hook up with successful people.

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There is a huge difference in that. Men may want someone who just has a decent job and "some" ambition. Women want a man who makes a lot more money than they themself make. Men and women gauge potential partners vastly differently in that regard.

ZyyzYzzy_sl said:

Please tell me you are being hypergamous and persuing a woman who is a dentist.

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Nah. Dentists are bad in bed.

Khane_sl said:

There is a huge difference in that. Men may want someone who just has a decent job and "some" ambition. Women want a man who makes a lot more money than they themself make. Men and women gauge potential partners vastly differently in that regard.

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I'm not sure I agree. Now, if the woman has kids? Absolutely. She's looking for the biggest checkbook.

Otherwise, this is just the "women are moneygrubbing whores" argument rehashed with different words.

Duppin_sl said:

I'm not sure I agree. Now, if the woman has kids? Absolutely. She's looking for the biggest checkbook.

Otherwise, this is just the "women are moneygrubbing whores" argument rehashed with different words.

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No it isn't. You'll never hear me say "women are money grubbing whores" and the argument isn't even remotely similar. Saying women gravitate to men who are more affluent than they are themselves is not even close to saying "All women want only your money and are whores also".

And it doesn't matter if you agree. There are tons of social trending studies done on this kind of thing. And research supports it as well.

Is it research that actually supports the exact thing you're saying, or Dumar-style "I'm going to read two words, fail to understand them, and claim a ridiculous position based off of them anyway"?

I don't see a big distinction between those two positions. Are you claiming that women desire men who are affluent, but don't do anything about it? If so, I don't see any difference between male and female in that regard. I'd love to have a wealthy girlfriend too, but it's pretty far down my list of criteria.

Duppin_sl said:

Is it research that actually supports the exact thing you're saying, or Dumar-style "I'm going to read two words, fail to understand them, and claim a ridiculous position based off of them anyway"?

I don't see a big distinction between those two positions. Are you claiming that women desire men who are affluent, but don't do anything about it? If so, I don't see any difference between male and female in that regard. I'd love to have a wealthy girlfriend too, but it's pretty far down my list of criteria.

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I don't have an agenda. I'm not making any claims based on the research. I don't know exactly what it means. I just know that women judge a man based on whether or not he is more affluent than she is.

No, I'm not lumping you in with the derp squad. But you said:

"And it doesn't matter if you agree. There are tons of social trending studies done on this kind of thing. And research supports it as well."

What specifically are you referring to, there?