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I liked the demo enough to try it once I get back into them.

I think it got mentioned on here earlier, but if you wanted old-school D1/2 vibes, there is also Halls of Torment:

I'm addicted to this game. Great game that scratches that old school d1 or 2 itch. Stuck right now trying to to complete the vault for the first time so I can start collecting green gear. I've gotten close but was missing some gear choices that would have probably pushed me to victory.
 

Void

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This game is fucking great. I'm a little over the whole pixel graphics thing these days, but this game has a ton of fucking depth. Just unlocking all of the different characters that can then be combined into even more characters that can be combined again, etc. could take you weeks. It is a little pricier than most in this genre, but already I think it is worth it.

 
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Palum

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This game is fucking great. I'm a little over the whole pixel graphics thing these days, but this game has a ton of fucking depth. Just unlocking all of the different characters that can then be combined into even more characters that can be combined again, etc. could take you weeks. It is a little pricier than most in this genre, but already I think it is worth it.



I looked at it but was sort of unconvinced, it seems like there's only one or a couple maps and the room based stuff is fairly straightforward? Also no meta progression just new unlocks?
 

Chimney

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Having played like a dozen of these now for 20+ hours.

Best

Soulstone Survivors (This one is the best by far in terms of progression options.)
Rogue: Genesia

Average

Halls of Torment
Brotato
Vampire Survivors
Deep Rock Galactic Survivor
Nomad Survival
God of Weapons

Still Not Close Enough To Completion

Yet Another Zombie Survivors
Jotunnslayer Hordes of Hel
Death Must Die

Weeb

Holocure Save the Fans
 

Chris

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Rogue Genesia seems a bit easy? Up to the 3rd or 4th rank now.

Getting multi shots and projectile weapons, glass cannon style.
 

Chimney

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Rogue Genesia seems a bit easy? Up to the 3rd or 4th rank now.

Getting multi shots and projectile weapons, glass cannon style.

For just grinding your way through the early ranks to A difficulty will be pretty trivial if you are doing things properly.

There are a lot of really powerful combos that can scale you into ridiculous damage numbers and/or near immunity from damage taken during longer runs. Getting all the item/char unlocks requires doing fairly specific tasks though so there is a lot of variety to be had while doing so. Then there are challenge modes and other crap too.
 
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Void

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I looked at it but was sort of unconvinced, it seems like there's only one or a couple maps and the room based stuff is fairly straightforward? Also no meta progression just new unlocks?
The maps aren't anything to write home about, that's true. There are 3 different maps but I haven't unlocked the later ones yet to see if they do anything, but I don't expect them to be much more than squares really. And there is meta progression, but standard fare, like increased pickup range, movement speed, attack, etc.

The gimmick to the game is the combo/upgrade of your "stands." No fucking clue why they are called stands, but they are the dudes that surround your main dude, and are basically just a different version of "weapons." They don't take damage or get hit, only your center dude does (so turn transparency to like 20% visible otherwise you'll have a hard time dodging properly). Let's say you buy a skeleton as one of them. If you buy another skeleton, you can combine them to make a 2 star skeleton. 2 of those can make a 3 star. OR you buy a skeleton and a wizard, and you can combine those two into an undead mage. Make another undead mage and combine them and now you have a 2 star undead mage. OR you have an undead mage and you build up a 2 star wizard, and you combine those into a lich. Etc. And you have like 7 or so slots around you that you can fill with all these dudes however you want (subject to availability of buying them at the randomized stores of course).

All of that combo stuff is the core draw of the game. None of those are gated behind unlocks, but you don't know what the combos are until you make them one time. Once you've made it you can "target" a specific one (multiple actually) so it tells you which ones you need to buy to make it. So if you target the lich, it is going to keep highlighting skeletons and wizards until you have bought enough of them to combine into the lich. Until you've made the lich once you can't get the targeting help, you are just randomly hoping shit combines into better shit. But once you have done a few of those you start to experiment with your build and combo'ing specific damage types (magic, physical, and pure) so that your synergies boost everyone, etc.

So yeah, you are going to be running around the same few square feet until you earn gold to unlock a door, which just opens into an identical set of square feet so now you can run back and forth between the two, and it isn't very exciting, so if map diversity is a priority, you will probably be disappointed. The draw is combining dudes into stronger and stronger dudes to pair with the other ones you have and making a ridiculous build. And that part is fucking great. Will it be fun a month from now? Maybe not, but neither are any of these games once you've unlocked everything and figured out your favorite builds.
 
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Chimney

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The gimmick to the game is the combo/upgrade of your "stands." No fucking clue why they are called stands, but they are the dudes that surround your main dude, and are basically just a different version of "weapons."


Prolly JoJo fans.
 

Gavinmad

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Holocure is unquestionably one of the best of the genre and I'd argue it's really only weeby if you actually understand the hololive references. If you don't understand the references then it's just a quirky game with really smooth gameplay.
 
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Slaanesh69

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Holocure is unquestionably one of the best of the genre and I'd argue it's really only weeby if you actually understand the hololive references. If you don't understand the references then it's just a quirky game with really smooth gameplay.
Not to mention it is free. It has reams more accessible content than most games on Chimney's list above. And I certainly don't get a single reference in the game, nor do I care.
 
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pwe

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I know I already posted this somewhere ~1 year ago, and it's obviously amateurish, but it's just fun looking at the statistics when there are people playing. So forgive me if this is a repost in this thread :)


 
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Brikker

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This game is fucking great. I'm a little over the whole pixel graphics thing these days, but this game has a ton of fucking depth. Just unlocking all of the different characters that can then be combined into even more characters that can be combined again, etc. could take you weeks. It is a little pricier than most in this genre, but already I think it is worth it.



Solid, having a lot of fun with this one! I started on my steam deck and didn't realize you could click on the ? portraits etc to see combos and requirements.
 
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rectifryer

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Any of these games feature multiplayer? I nearly 100% completed brotato with my wife and we're addicted. We tried vampire survivors but it's a bit meh.
 

Palum

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This looks really interesting. Too bad epic games store exclusive so I'll never play it. This is the exact iteration and advancement of the genre/concept that I want to see though.
 

Brikker

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Any of these games feature multiplayer? I nearly 100% completed brotato with my wife and we're addicted. We tried vampire survivors but it's a bit meh.
VS like you said. The TemTem one has multiplayer I believe.


This looks really interesting. Too bad epic games store exclusive so I'll never play it. This is the exact iteration and advancement of the genre/concept that I want to see though.

That isn't a VS-like.
 

Kaige

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This looks really interesting. Too bad epic games store exclusive so I'll never play it. This is the exact iteration and advancement of the genre/concept that I want to see though.


That's available on Game Pass too. I have it installed.

 

Chris

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For just grinding your way through the early ranks to A difficulty will be pretty trivial if you are doing things properly.

There are a lot of really powerful combos that can scale you into ridiculous damage numbers and/or near immunity from damage taken during longer runs. Getting all the item/char unlocks requires doing fairly specific tasks though so there is a lot of variety to be had while doing so. Then there are challenge modes and other crap too.
Nearly got A rank unlocked, I hope it's worth it, these challenges have not been hard.

Is it worth bothering? Game is really well produced but extremely easy and repetitive.