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fanaskin

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If there's no enforcement mechanism then it's like the league of nations, a good idea only. I mean there's some soft power there and influence but nothing is going to stop a country like china if they want to do it.
 
Cad

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So then hodj, and I'm not baiting you here, what is ethics? Who decides what is ethical?
 
iannis

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It's a communal decision, generally.

Ethics do change. They change a lot, really. They should change as the actions and attitudes that they regulate change. And there are such things as ethics review boards which set majority opinion standards. At least in medicine. I assume those exist in law as well.

Something like this may be undisputably ethical in China for a Chinese researcher. But it's not in America for an American one. Viewpoints do differ.

But even if it is, that still doesn't make it a good idea. I think it's a bad idea. I think you can too easily poison the well with shit like this.
 
Tuco

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hodj_sl said:
Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights | United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization

Intergovernmental Bioethics Committee | United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization

Universal Declaration on the Human Genome and Human Rights | United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization

You obviously aren't googling well enough.

Also you've fallen back on the "Its ethical so long as their government says so" argument that is demonstrably nonsense. It wasn't ethical when the Germans were dissecting live humans without anesthesia just because Adolf said so. It wasn't ethical when the Japanese were gassing civilians in China and recording their suffering and dying, just because the Japanese government said so. It wasn't ethical when American researchers were conducting the Tuskegee experiments on blacks without their full knowledge of the process and viable alternatives. Its not ethical when the Chinese government forces poor women with more than 1 child to undergo abortions, just because the government allows it. And its not ethical when Chinese researchers do this just because their government said so.

No one is going to "enforce" anything on China in some sort of militaristic fashion, that entire line of reasoning is a non sequitor. But medical researchersare ethically boundby international agreements, by the Nuremburg Codes, by the Hippocratic oaths, etc.
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You've godwin'd this argument two posts after I told you to make your final statements, ergo you lose. Cad is the winner. If you guys want to continue an ethics discussion do so here:Ethics in the Sciences


Meanwhile in science:
That EMDrive everyone is apprehensive about behaved oddly when they did some science on it and it gave off an interference pattern that matches what a warp drive would look like:
NASA May Have Accidentally Created a Warp Field | Mysterious Universe
EM Drive Developments - related to space flight applications - Thread 2

Probably just silliness, but is very cool. Any new discover in propulsion in the direction the EMDrive is in is a huge deal. On the order of fire, electricity, electromagnetism and nuclear.
 
Ambiturner

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Tuco_sl said:
Probably just silliness, but is very cool. Any new discover in propulsion in the direction the EMDrive is in is a huge deal. On the order offire, electricity, electromagnetism and nuclear.
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lol prove beyond 14 standard deviations any of that even exists. I'll wait
 
Cad

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Tuco_sl said:
Meanwhile in science:
That EMDrive everyone is apprehensive about behaved oddly when they did some science on it and it gave off an interference pattern that matches what a warp drive would look like:
NASA May Have Accidentally Created a Warp Field | Mysterious Universe
EM Drive Developments - related to space flight applications - Thread 2

Probably just silliness, but is very cool. Any new discover in propulsion in the direction the EMDrive is in is a huge deal. On the order of fire, electricity, electromagnetism and nuclear.
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Shit, thats awesome. I need to invest in this.
 
Furry

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Ambiturner_sl said:
lol prove beyond 14 standard deviations any of that even exists. I'll wait
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No you're right. Nasa disproved the speed of light already. Who needs the scientific process. Ill start erasing the lines in my kids christian physics book.
 
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i'm fairly sure the military is already spending money on it, the scientists don't pay for the research out of their own pocket you know. the chinese are big enough to make our military wary enough to spend money on it. Same with the space race.
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Youdoknow that "Attack of the Clones" was fiction, right?
 
Dandain

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So while this might be the wrong thread, I think that its still relevant. Check out the fucking forces of nature. These images are amazing.

The Eruption of Chiles Calbuco Volcano - The Atlantic

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Fadaar

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Sweet black baby raptor Jesus I want a 2560x1440 of that picture for a background

Edit: Bleh found some but they all look like ass. Stupid people and their 4:3 pictures.
 
BrutulTM

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Can you imagine being a primitive tribe and seeing that shit with absolutely no context for it whatsoever? I would be rounding up every virgin I could find and throwing them in to try to make that thing happy.
 
Malakriss

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The Earth had spicy mexican food for dinner and after it worked its way down south, the result was inevitable.
 
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