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You are right, there are no $300M to the exact dollar projects, with 12 scientists over the age of 32.7, that have come from multiple nations with the letter A in them, which take place in temperatures around 15 ?C the Celsius is important, that has a name beginning with Ice and ending in Top or Cube (capitalization is important).

You got me. You are so smart. I almost had you if you didn't include that 12 nations thing you scoundrel!! Way to give me almost too much breathing room there ......
 
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There areNO PROJECTS OF THIS SCALE INVOLVING THIS MANY MEMBER NATIONS AND CONTRIBUTING RESEARCHERS WITH THIS AMOUNT OF FUNDINGthat return falsified results, or fake their data.

I know I'm right. I've been right from the start. If you could ever actuallyaddress the points being made by the people you were discussing things withyou'd probably get that a lot easier, without my having to brow beat the fuck out of you with the information to get you to back off your shitty strawmen and complete and total terminal inability to grasp what people are actually saying to you, rather than responding to what youwant to hear instead.

And that post by you is just salty fucking tears and more desperate strawmanning.

Your inability to address the actual position being taken by others is not our fault.
 
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hodj_sl said:
There areNO PROJECTS OF THIS SCALE INVOLVING THIS MANY MEMBER NATIONS AND CONTRIBUTING RESEARCHERS WITH THIS AMOUNT OF FUNDINGthat return falsified results, or fake their data.

I know I'm right. I've been right from the start. If you could ever actuallyaddress the points being made by the people you were discussing things withyou'd probably get that a lot easier, without my having to brow beat the fuck out of you with the information to get you to back off your shitty strawmen and complete and total terminal inability to grasp what people are actually saying to you, rather than responding to what youwant to hear instead.
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Now scroll back and point to me ever saying that there was and then let's revisit the strawmaen.
 
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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
Now scroll back and point to me ever saying that there was and then let's revisit the strawmaen.
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Sure, we can do that

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People dothat kind of fraudall the time

That's why I immediately asked you what you meant bythat kind of fraudand told you to define it.

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Citation on "people do that kind of fraud all the time"

What "kind of fraud" and how often?

There are oversight bodies of actual experts in these fields which go through these proposals with fine tined combs seeking for any justification to throw them out. So please, its not some big conspiracy to defraud Murrica by faking sub atomic particles.

Give me an example of a major physics laboratory defrauding the public on a project of the scale of Icetop or gtfo.

And if you think measuring rates subatomic particles is spending grant money wit nothing useful coming out of it, youre so short sighted youre fucking myopic.
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See it, a_skeleton_03? See it?

"Please, its not some big conspiracy to defraud Murrica byfaking sub atomic particles"
 
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That kind of fraud is multi million dollar fraud. Like you said in that post and like I already supported.

Stop "responding to what you want to hear instead."
 
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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
That kind of fraud is multi million dollar fraud.
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That is revisionist history, we were discussing faking data, not just stealing money.

This is you, doing what you've been accusing me of from the start, which is shifting goal posts.
 
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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
I showed you researchers faking data as well.
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You're so dishonest its just pathetic.

You just stated that you were actually talking about defrauding the feds for millions of dollars, when I pointed out we were discussing faking data. When I point that out, then you shift back to "Well I was talking about faking data"

Fuck off with the trying to be a little forked tongued weasel cunt talking about of both sides of your mouth.

You can't contradict yourself back and forth between posts try to and fix this.
 
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Nope, because you're still contradicting yourself no matter how you try to justify it post hoc. I'm also done with this topic with you because I can only take so much of your serial dishonesty, completely and total inability to read and comprehend what is said to you for one day, and I've about had my fill of it on this one.

Like Khalid earlier today, I'm just done letting your stupidity draw me back in.
 
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its so painful to see when two intelligent people get in a stupid debate like this
 
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He's been wanting an argument like that all day, you could tell, and I knew it too, so I should have just ignored his dumbass instead of letting him draw me into that shit.

Sorry guys.
 
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Let's not go overboard now fellas.

a_skeleton_03 is reverse genius, after all.
 
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If either of you had any idea of what you were talking about, could make a coherent argument and have confidence in your argument you wouldve been able to state your case and win in a single post instead of jerking each other off over several pages.

Either way the floor is open to closing statements. No more than 500 words each. Verdict will be rendered on who wins tomorrow morning.
 
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Tuco_sl said:
If either of you had any idea of what you were talking about, could make a coherent argument and have confidence in your argument you wouldve been able to state your case and win in a single post instead of jerking each other off over several pages.

Either way the floor is open to closing statements. No more than 500 words each. Verdict will be rendered on who wins tomorrow morning.
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I said my piece.

Go ahead and rickshaw whoever you want over it now, instead of making us wait.

For the record, I was on my ipad for half this discussion and had to wait to get back home to get a proper internet connection and browser to dig up the data on the funding for the program. As soon as I did and could cite the relevant information, a_skeleton_03's entire case collapsed and he knew it.
 
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I said my piece also. There is fraud out there when it comes to science and grants. The likeliness of something this big is low but that doesn't mean impossible. That simple. This is theoretical physics you could shit on a paper and "prove something" about it.

I know it and that failed NASA telescope are trigger buttons for hodj so he will defend it to the day he dies even when it doesn't bring a shred of useful data to the table.
 
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