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In the book Solo is surviving off tins of baked beans and other “non perishable” items. There’s literal mounds of shit in the corner of IT where he craps and piles up garbage. The hydroponics level still operates a little also.
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DickTrickle
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Gotta say, this last episode was pretty confusing to make sense of. Spoilers ahead, obviously.
I don't know what we're really supposed to believe about the outside world. It's obviously dangerous at least a lot of the time as everyone who cleans without a good suit dies. Yet, Solo made it sound like silo people were able to get out and be okay for a while -- was he just talking about a handful of seconds because all the bodies were near the entrance. His words kind of made me think it was his silo that then killed them even though his parents had apparently disabled the safeguard. But then why have him locked up in the vault? Did they just discover it and not actually disable it? I wonder if the Silo safeguard kills just inside that raised ring around each one.
Also, Lucas seems like he's on a mission to get back up in time, like it's life or death and crucial to saving the silo. He's trying up until the point he finally talks to Bernard. After that, he then is totally nonchalant and seems accepting of everyone's death. But why whisper to Bernard if everyone was going to be killed anyway? Why did his urgency end after talking to Bernard (who also seemed to believe the end was near and just wanted to go outside before he died)? I was thinking maybe he was sent by the AI for some reason but why do that bidding if you think everyone is dead anyway? Also, it's clear that whatever he learned was some terrible truth, but Judge Meadows just sank into depression and didn't think death was imminent when she found out.
The future stuff was an interesting curveball thrown in there and obviously seems from the past, but it's still hard to imagine what the purpose of these silos would be. If they were a nuclear war refuge, why have a system built to murder them all? What kind of experiment would require 500K people across generations to derive something meaningful? It seems implausible for that to exist if there's actually a real world out there somewhere. I think it will be dumb if we find out in the end that these silos are somehow hidden from the real world for some nefarious purpose.
Did the AI take control, start a war, and is keeping the humans in these silos as pets and play things?
Just a lot of questions from that last episode that, to me, seem to have parts that are contradictory or don't make a ton of sense based on what we currently know. Obviously it's all pretty fresh and I'll probably have to watch it again as I might have missed some nuances, but I'm really curious what people are taking away from the finale.
I don't want any book spoilers, but book readers, is the show still aligning to the general plot/outline of the mystery? I know a lot of characters and shit were added but have they gone off the rails in regards to the main plot? I guess I just want to be assured there's a meaningful non bullshit payoff.
Also, dumbass cliffhanger with the fireball shit. Obviously they're not both going to die. They should have just left it in mid confrontation instead of this fake cliffhanger.
I don't know what we're really supposed to believe about the outside world. It's obviously dangerous at least a lot of the time as everyone who cleans without a good suit dies. Yet, Solo made it sound like silo people were able to get out and be okay for a while -- was he just talking about a handful of seconds because all the bodies were near the entrance. His words kind of made me think it was his silo that then killed them even though his parents had apparently disabled the safeguard. But then why have him locked up in the vault? Did they just discover it and not actually disable it? I wonder if the Silo safeguard kills just inside that raised ring around each one.
Also, Lucas seems like he's on a mission to get back up in time, like it's life or death and crucial to saving the silo. He's trying up until the point he finally talks to Bernard. After that, he then is totally nonchalant and seems accepting of everyone's death. But why whisper to Bernard if everyone was going to be killed anyway? Why did his urgency end after talking to Bernard (who also seemed to believe the end was near and just wanted to go outside before he died)? I was thinking maybe he was sent by the AI for some reason but why do that bidding if you think everyone is dead anyway? Also, it's clear that whatever he learned was some terrible truth, but Judge Meadows just sank into depression and didn't think death was imminent when she found out.
The future stuff was an interesting curveball thrown in there and obviously seems from the past, but it's still hard to imagine what the purpose of these silos would be. If they were a nuclear war refuge, why have a system built to murder them all? What kind of experiment would require 500K people across generations to derive something meaningful? It seems implausible for that to exist if there's actually a real world out there somewhere. I think it will be dumb if we find out in the end that these silos are somehow hidden from the real world for some nefarious purpose.
Did the AI take control, start a war, and is keeping the humans in these silos as pets and play things?
Just a lot of questions from that last episode that, to me, seem to have parts that are contradictory or don't make a ton of sense based on what we currently know. Obviously it's all pretty fresh and I'll probably have to watch it again as I might have missed some nuances, but I'm really curious what people are taking away from the finale.
I don't want any book spoilers, but book readers, is the show still aligning to the general plot/outline of the mystery? I know a lot of characters and shit were added but have they gone off the rails in regards to the main plot? I guess I just want to be assured there's a meaningful non bullshit payoff.
Also, dumbass cliffhanger with the fireball shit. Obviously they're not both going to die. They should have just left it in mid confrontation instead of this fake cliffhanger.
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DickTrickle
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Oh, another gripe from the last episode is that the whole Walker double agent thing was so painfully obvious in its setup that it completely sucked all the drama out of the gunpowder plot and rebel fighting.
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Outside is poisonous (heavy assumption if not outright confirmation based on the flashback scene is radiation from nuclear fallout). I personally doubt it’s some huge experiment or conspiracy Fallout style; the entire world is glassed. The flashback is confirmation of that for me.
The AI has a failsafe to liquidate the population of the silo. Unclear what the exact trigger is but based on Solo’s memories, it has something to do with a successful uprising. He said they only got outside because it was disabled in his silo.
It seemed Lucas was trying everything in his power to get to Bernard to prevent it from happening, but, by the time he finally did arrive, the triggering event already occurred in his mind or is inevitable. He is certainly in enjoy your last moments mode. He only knows about it; he doesn’t know how to stop it from happening if triggered (which Juliet does).
Yes, fireball cliffhanger is dumb. When is S3?
The AI has a failsafe to liquidate the population of the silo. Unclear what the exact trigger is but based on Solo’s memories, it has something to do with a successful uprising. He said they only got outside because it was disabled in his silo.
It seemed Lucas was trying everything in his power to get to Bernard to prevent it from happening, but, by the time he finally did arrive, the triggering event already occurred in his mind or is inevitable. He is certainly in enjoy your last moments mode. He only knows about it; he doesn’t know how to stop it from happening if triggered (which Juliet does).
Yes, fireball cliffhanger is dumb. When is S3?
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spoilers for the last episode of the sesason.
Yea its kind of following tbe flow of the book overall. but they TVshow added some characters to fluff out the folks doing stuff. kind of detracted from simms if i recall. all the stuff his wife did, i think he did in the book as kind of a face turn, at a key moment to turn the tide. the perceived villian turned out to not be a psychopath in the end, but instead his wife was just good and he was....kind of quiet and out of it?
they changed the method/threat of the safeguard, but it's spirit is the same. my take away from the show is that lucas knew the safeguard was about to be triggered and ran to bernard. he told bernared he knew it was starting and bernard, who knew it existed, what it did, what the terms of it firing off was....realized they were fucked. and told the kid that. so both of them entered dead man mode. and both got wistful about their life in their own way.
(book spoilers up to this point in the story. none of this is about stuff 'ahead' of the second season of the show).
one of the more massive diferences in the book and show, si that the young man shadow to IT...was the one who spoke to the voice in the vault and not sims and certainly not his non existant wife character. I think he had communicated with the voice much earlier in the story wand was kind of probing a way to prevent the safeguard long before it occured in the show.
also, in the book. bernard was outside the cleaning doors when juliette arrived, but because simms held a trial and sentenced him to cleaning. book bernard was going out to die cleaning when juliette showed up like an angry ghost.
The scene with the two people talking in the restrant was a tie in to what was ultimately the 'second' trilogy of the silo books. the silo books had five 'novels' (but really they were as long as like 3 slim novels because the first 2 were very small). those told a complete story. then the 'shift' series told a story in the setting, related to silo. THEN therew as one final novel to finish the story arc completely.
my prediction for the show (spoiler free) is that next season will be some of the more slow story elements from book (5 i guess?) in parelel with the start of telling the shift story. and we'll get kind of parelel storytelling like how this season had 2 things going on. could be good. i've enjoyed the show so far. i feel like it's mostly along with the books, but they did change a lot of things which maybe play better in a tv medium. or maybe were goofy and unthoughtout in the book. i read the books like....more than 10 years ago so i may be rose tinting the story some . hugh howey can be goofy in his writings. but also kind of cool and also kind of down to earth vs fallout and other more absurd post apocalypstic stories heh.
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I was annoyed by this season so I decided to look up spoilers.
Here is what the radiation/toxic gas outside the silo's really are:
And the purpose of the silos:
Here is what the radiation/toxic gas outside the silo's really are:
Nanobots, clouds of them. They were used for things like medicine but a madman co-opted them to kill people in a massive terror attack.
And the purpose of the silos:
It's a test to see who will repopulate the planet. Silos are ranked by the AI system - they are competing with each other. Only one silo is supposed to survive in the end. This is why each silo has the 'safeguard'.
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The finale was kind of a shit show. It felt like they were relying on me to somehow figure out what the characters were thinking.
Generally for a climactic episode, you'd explain some shit, not just keep adding more mysteries (outside of the "cliffhanger"). If not for the book spoilers, I'd have no clue what any of the people in the main silo are doing. Lukas, Bernard, Sims? It's like they all had some internal dialogue or whispering between their characters that I wasn't privy to, but then it's the bulk of the story.
And then the final scene, both my wife and I thought we'd started accidentally watching some other show. If not for the Pez dispenser (the radiation thing could've been any show), we would've had no clue. It seems like something that should've dropped mid season and then maybe conclude on something else from that timeline.
Overall I wasn't impressed by this season. It was too disjointed. Like someone else said, the interesting part was Juliet and the entire season she was the b plot.
Generally for a climactic episode, you'd explain some shit, not just keep adding more mysteries (outside of the "cliffhanger"). If not for the book spoilers, I'd have no clue what any of the people in the main silo are doing. Lukas, Bernard, Sims? It's like they all had some internal dialogue or whispering between their characters that I wasn't privy to, but then it's the bulk of the story.
And then the final scene, both my wife and I thought we'd started accidentally watching some other show. If not for the Pez dispenser (the radiation thing could've been any show), we would've had no clue. It seems like something that should've dropped mid season and then maybe conclude on something else from that timeline.
Overall I wasn't impressed by this season. It was too disjointed. Like someone else said, the interesting part was Juliet and the entire season she was the b plot.