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Lanx

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Typical input to output latency on Android devices is between 100 and 250 milliseconds. Sonoma Wire Works' LLA solution brings latency down to approximately 20 milliseconds.


Press Release: Low Latency Audio Solution for Android Devices

btw i have no idea wtf this is, what latency for music is and am tone deaf, this is just google searching, if you provide more info i can find more googling i guess.

also i'm on verizon as well and held off on upgrade to see what iphone 6 had to offer (i have s3 atm) and yes i agree the current best of the best android from verizon is gonna be the s5

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"When it comes to music creation, modification, digital instruments effects, and the like, iOS has always been overwhelmingly ahead of Android. There's one simple reason for this - it's not because of hardware limitation. It's not because developers and effects manufacturers don't want to to support Android. It's because of the audio-in latency - it's simply too high. For those who may not know, audio latency is "a short period of delay (usually measured in milliseconds) between when an audio signal enters and when it emerges from a system." In this case, it's the amount of time it takes to get the signal from an instrument (or similar creation device) through the Android OS. Logically, if it takes the system too long to process the first note, the second, third, or even tenth could already be on its way before the first is finished processing. You can see how that's a massive problem.
On iOS, audio-in latency is around 20ms, which is perfect for recording software or producing real-time effects on something like a guitar. On Android, however, the latency is around 200-300ms, which is absolutely unacceptable in terms of audio recording and digital effect processing. It just doesn't work. Typically, the audio-in latency needs to be below 25ms to be useable."

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seems to be an android os issue, probably not gonna be fixed or anyone would care to license the fix.
 

Duppin_sl

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Yeah, that's the issue as I understand it. Apparently a fix to it is getting closer:

Guitar Effects Apps Finally Coming to Android! (Guitarsite)

"Often called USB OTG for short, this specification which is now being supported by some Android devices running version 4.0 or later, can enable your smart phone or tablet to act as a USB host.

In short, this means you can now plug USB Audio Interfaces directly into your device, and then plug your guitar into the interface, and get the sound working with relatively low latency."
 

Flipmode

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I think the wife and I are going for the 6 plus. I briefly considered switching back to android but I have no desire to return to that fragmented ecosystem. Idk. I just like apples ecosystem better. Apps seem better on ios vs the android counterparts.

I'd give windows a shot but it's lacking the apps. And with the changes to ios 8 that give me the features of andriod that I do miss (swype), the account sharing and the bigger screen, it's all win in my book. But fuck that apple watch.
 

Lanx

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sept 19 is the iphone 6/6+ release 200 and 299

verizon is gonna offer a 200$ trade in. i have a s3, my screens cracked but everything works, didn't want to fix it in case i mess it up (i have replacement glass). i'll probably do that instead of a s5
 

Izo

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iPhones starts at $1K here, 6mo contract. Mrs. Izo wants the iPhone 6 to replace the looted 5s. Tuco, help me build one out of wood and valyrian steel?
 

Flipmode

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I have a 5s and the wife has a 5. Gonna give those to the kids since I intended to get them phones soon anyways. No way they're getting the new shit!
 

Chancellor Alkorin

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Sold my 5s, pre-ordered a 6+ this morning. Time will tell if I actually turn into a sheepling irl or if it's just my wallet that starts bleeting.
 

Flipmode

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Sold my 5s, pre-ordered a 6+ this morning. Time will tell if I actually turn into a sheepling irl or if it's just my wallet that starts bleeting.
You'll be fine. Buying apple products doesn't make you a sheep. Some people just prefer their phones and ecosystem. Yes they charge more. Do denying or defending that. I just look at it as the entire package. Hardware and software. When picking a phone you have to consider more than just specs.
 

Chancellor Alkorin

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I know, I was saying that tongue-in-cheek. I've been an Apple guy since the iPhone 3G. I'd have considered a switch to Android by now if not for the staggering number of apps I own in the Apple ecosystem (and I detest the stock Android UX, but I hear the mods are really decent).

Funny thing is, I tried to buy a Galaxy Note years ago, because of the size. The telco guy wouldn't sell it to me because my phone plan was "incompatible" (in other words, bend over and give up your nicer, pre-existing plan for this new, overly expensive shit plan). If not for that, I'd probably be an Android user now. Jury's still out on whether he did me a favour or a great disservice.
 

Chancellor Alkorin

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It wasn't possible for me at the time due to my old wireless carrier being a bunch of douchebags. I switched carriers a couple years ago, but as I said above, I have way, way (WAY) too much money invested in apps to bother at this point.

I read something a while back about some mod that lets you run iOS apps on Android. If that's actually real, I'll consider jumping ship, for sure.
 

Inque

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I think my question is too niche-y, so I'll ask a broader question:

What's the best Android phone right now on Verizon? I'd prefer something a little smaller since I'm short so I have smaller pockets, but it's not the end of the world if a larger device is clearly the best. I don't want to fuck around with rooting or anything, I want a phone that works well out of the box.
The HTC M8 or the LG G3 are your top 2 competitors, the S5 pales in comparison.
 

Crone

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Verizon is only giving $200 trade in? You can sell it damn easy on Craigslist for $450-500! The 5s 32gb at least. Damn.
 

Palum

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Thought I'd toss this here. My Razr Maxx has been completely shit since the last Android update push. So much so I've been looking for a phone despite none of the recent offerings really appealing to me. Recently it started being even worse, so I decided to go through and manually stop some processes in a vain attempt to gain a few more months out of it before frustration made me throw it into the ground.

It appears Blizzard's authenticator process does not play well with the new update. I went from having almost 100% processor utilization at all times to normal as soon as I killed it. At least my phone is good for awhile longer. Google search works nominally once again and everything is back to normal. When using ATK to kill programs, it wasn't actually ending the helper process or whatever, just the app... so it was doing nothing the entire time.