Star Citizen Online - The search for more money
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Seananigans
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Uh, rarely. Crowdfunding is an ingenious way for independent developers to create all sorts of shit.
This is an outlier. Crowdfunded projects typically end up, for the vast majority of consumers, to be a pre-paid product that probably wouldn't have been created without crowdfunding. Most consumers who are crowdfunding consider it to be a solid use of their money, with a little risk (with proper common sense and vetting), and the majority of "pledges" are for actual products. For instance, my own pledge to this silly game was for $30 for a digital copy of the game, that by all accounts is playable right now, but may or may not reach finality.
That said, there are certainly out-right scams on crowdfunding sites, as well as basically the entirety of things like Patreon. But that's what the common sense and vetting is for. Personally, I'd say the good that's come from crowdfunding being a thing vastly outweighs the slight increase in avenues for scammers. This particular anomaly certainly seems to have jumped partially on the scam bandwagon, although my own theory is they fully intend to create a product, and are falling prey to the feature bloat and other such stuff that comes along with insane levels of production financing.
Oh, and yes, paying thousands of dollars for a digital ship in a game that may or may not reach final production is stupid, I agree on that. But you over-generalized your statement for sure. And the stock investment analogy is fallacious, it's more akin to a pre-order, premium or otherwise.
More akin to a preorder? The fuck? I can preorder a game right now at GameStop for $5, and finish paying for the game when it comes in. When you're spending a few hundred dollars for a game that will retail for $50 or so, how is that similar to preordering? The stock analogy is spot on, because when a company wants you to buy stock in their company, you have a chance a getting a very good return on your investment, along with paying dividends. If these companies really want the players to fund their games, then they should offer some kind of profit sharing. Right now it's "help us raise millions of dollars to make our game, to make us rich! Your reward is you get to spend ten times the purchase price for the game!"
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Mughal
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The Star Citizen crowdfunding data does not make any sense. I believe they are not telling the whole story and that either some of that funding is just equity from investors or they have added few zeros. I mean had they raised $5m it would have put SC in one of the most successful crowdfunding campaigns ever (and all the others had massive social media presence while SC had little in comparison). And of course they use their own platform for fundraising so there is no way to get 3rd party validation on those numbers.
Im not that impressed by the first person shooter they implemented. Maybe I should play it more? It just feels bland.
Blackwulf
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I feel the same. Hopefully they continue to iterate on it. Personally, I'm not a big fan of that type of game, so I only see Star Marine as a test bed for how fps mechanics will work in the persistent universe.
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Zapatta
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So basically, this won't even get out of Alpha in 2017. Better break out the checkbooks, Star Citizens to make sure it reaches 2018!
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AladainAF
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This is how I feel and won't do it anymore.
Entropia Universe guys crowdfund with their players. It can be hit or miss though, but I invested $7500 there for fun, and it's been paying a consistent 7-12% return over the last two years.. And the crowdfunding there are basically tradeable shares of stock based on "taxes" from what you kill/mine/earn on lands and thusfar, at least, they have consistently gone up or kept their value.
That's a much better model IMO, but with a lot of inherent risk too.
This is 1,103 shared/deeds of the arkadia underground planet. My original cost per deed was $5 USD or 50 PED (10 PED = 1 USD). (Edit, lol, I said 50 USD not 5)
They are currently paying me 0.01 - 0.02 PED per day per deed, or $1.103 or $2.206 per day. The current value of AUDs are about 65 PED each.
So initial investment into AUDs was around US$5,500. Current value US$7,169, and since my last transfer several months ago, I've earned US$316.07 interest (or whatever you want to call it).
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Variise
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I promised to stay away but I just had to say something because this statement sums up my frustration with this community.
You come to this conclusion now? I have been repeating this every single time it came up as a major point of contention since 2015. I was also the only one who called their year end release correctly as most likely topping out at 2.6 as everything else was unreasonable.
You people have a problem with me personally so its easy to throw the baby out with the bathwater. How many more times do I have to be right before more than one or two people takes me seriously. Hey lets keep score in this thread on how many things you people get right vs me and see how we end up in the end no matter how good or bad it gets. Let me know if you want to have a go. I got spare pick axes and a fresh salt mine ready to go.
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hodj
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No one cares about your or your opinion enough to shed a tear if you dropped off this forum, shill.
Tuco would be like "I value his contribution" or some trite shit. a_skeleton_03 would be like "Well its nice to have his point of view" and then that would be the end of it.
You are irrelevant. This game is a fucking disaster. No amount of long winded typing is going to fix or change any of that. The proof will be in the pudding when it is released sometime in 2077.
Tuco would be like "I value his contribution" or some trite shit. a_skeleton_03 would be like "Well its nice to have his point of view" and then that would be the end of it.
You are irrelevant. This game is a fucking disaster. No amount of long winded typing is going to fix or change any of that. The proof will be in the pudding when it is released sometime in 2077.
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zombiewizardhawk
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