Star Trek: Discovery
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I didn't realize how many of these episodes were from the final season.
I didn't realize how many of these episodes were from the final season.
sukik
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Gambit, The Pegasus, Lower Decks, All good things and maybe Parallels to throw Worf a bone aren't bad. The rest is pretty ass.
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They ran out of Roddenberry. Gene was the driver behind TNG, and he died in late 91. So they had Season 5 and probably some good outlines for season 6, but season 7 was all the new guys. They did pull in the best writer for All Good Things, though. Ended the series on a very very good high.
sukik
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I think season seven's poor quality is more easily attributed to the rise of the mediocre Micheal Piller, Rick Berman and Brannon Braga than the death of Roddenberry. TNG had some good writers and they had some bad ones. Also, if I remember the commentary I listened to years ago correctly a lot of the good stuff from TNG was done despite Roddenberry interference not because of it. One only needs to look at the ham that is ST:OS and the first 3 seasons of TNG for that, because season 1 to 3 were basically rehashed Star Trek Phase II scripts that were more pure Roddenberry. I'm not trying to diminish Roddenberry's importance as creator but to attribute all the best to him is disingenuous. After TNG ended the good and the bad writers seemed to split up pretty evenly. Ira Stephen Behr, Ronald Moore, Rene Echevarria and others(I'm sure) went on to create some of the best of star trek in season 3-6 of Deep Space Nine. While Piller, Berman, Braga and others went on to make Voyager, Enterprise and then the franchise killer that was Nemesis. Bad shows all around, and their horribleness can be attributed to the writers because the casts were mostly ok.
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It all comes down to whether you think Roddenberry's Polyannaisms were a good thing or not as far as him being a writer. The more telling achievement was that he was willing to bend, thus making him a great leader for the franchise.
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I don't really think it is but with the abject failure of every show runner besides Ira Stephen Behr I'll concede that Gene Rodenberry was one of the best show leaders. Manny Coto gets an honorable mention because he might of been able to resurrect the dead horse that was ST:Enterprise but it was cancelled so we'll never know.
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So I recently watched the final episodes of all the series, and some of them are good, but there are some really shitty ones, too. Here's my assessment, everyone weigh in.
From best to worst:
DS9 - great ending that wrapped things up nicely, but not stupidly easily. Could easily spin off a movie.
TNG - fun ending, pretty much capped off that series in a predictable way
Voyager - shit. All of a sudden, without warning, they accomplished that which they had been trying to the whole show. No warning. crap.
Enterprise - Who the fuck cares about Troi and Riker at this point? The episode was about them, and that was totally stupid.
From best to worst:
DS9 - great ending that wrapped things up nicely, but not stupidly easily. Could easily spin off a movie.
TNG - fun ending, pretty much capped off that series in a predictable way
Voyager - shit. All of a sudden, without warning, they accomplished that which they had been trying to the whole show. No warning. crap.
Enterprise - Who the fuck cares about Troi and Riker at this point? The episode was about them, and that was totally stupid.
