Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)

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Palum

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It would actually be kinda cool if Driver's character was like barely force sensitive and he's just a pissed angry jealous dude and when he almost gets fucked up by Finn with a real lightsaber he freaks out and starts trying to kill star systems to prevent his embarrassment. Then at the end Luke is like, hey, fuck you and bitch slaps him. With the force. While blowing up his death star in an X-wing.
 

Cybsled

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Well, when you watch all the trailers, one thing sticks out:

1) The scene where we see who we assume is Luke (metal hand laying on R2D2), is taking place a night on a desert planet
2) The new trailer shows more scene of Ren landing on a desert planet at night and fucking up the joint

It stands to reason that Ren is assaulting that village/place because he knows Luke is there, probably to destroy him because he knows Luke poses the greatest threat to him as the sole living (as far as we know) Jedi master. Of course, even if he does die, he would probably come back as a force ghost to guide the new kids.
 

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So if we're assuming the storyboard/spoilerboard is somewhat correct then Ren and Rey are twin brother and sister from Han and Leia, they were being trained by Luke along with some others where he failed and Ren and the rest sans Rey fell to the dark side. So Luke then fucking exiles himself just like Yoda and the rest? Honestly that's probably one of the lamest things about Star Wars, you lose one fight so you go meditate about it for the rest of your life in some backwater shit hole? I'm assuming Ren's eventual master is some all encompassing Sith that fills that dark side void that Luke doesn't trust himself in dealing with.

With all that said I don't trust it as accurate as Luke basically isn't in the movie at all and that would seem a bit odd when he was clearly there for the shooting of the movie.
 

Palum

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Well, when you watch all the trailers, one thing sticks out:

1) The scene where we see who we assume is Luke (metal hand laying on R2D2), is taking place a night on a desert planet
2) The new trailer shows more scene of Ren landing on a desert planet at night and fucking up the joint

It stands to reason that Ren is assaulting that village/place because he knows Luke is there, probably to destroy him because he knows Luke poses the greatest threat to him as the sole living (as far as we know) Jedi master. Of course, even if he does die, he would probably come back as a force ghost to guide the new kids.
I hope Luke is not hiding on Tatooine. Again.
 

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Correct, the bridge of a Star Destroyer and a Super Star Destroyer look very similar so you'd be hard pressed to guess which ship they're inside of in that scene.

The Star Destroyers in the new movie have a different design, reminiscent of the Sith Cruisers of the Old Republic, hinting perhaps that the First Order is more turned towards a religious or cultist aspect than the Empire. It's my belief that as much as the Empire and various Imperial designs were based heavily on WW2 Nazi designs (officer suits for instance), the First Order in the new trilogy is based on the much more hardcore-believers SS (extreme even by Nazi standards), and the suits also reflect that. So, their First Order being much more into the occult is likely, since the SS were led by Himler who was a nut about everything occult (rituals in castles and shit, it's crazy).

Supposedly, there were twelve executor-class Star Destroyers in the Imperial Navy, the only one seen in the movies was the Executor, and only one other is official as of now, the Ravager (mentionned in the canon book, "Lost Stars", awesome read by the way). Fun fact, it's also the name of Darth Nihilus's personnal flagship in KOTOR 2 but I'm sure that's a coincidence, it's just a badass name.

This may or may not be the overturned Ravager seen on Jakku, since there WAS a "Battle of Jakku" before TFA happens, and after the ending of the canon "Lost Stars" book. The end of Lost Stars (not really a spoiler) features the crash of the Star Destroyer seen in the trailer on Jakku (The Inflictor), so it's definitely all canon and official.

What has me curious about that scene above though, is what they're all looking at. The red flash looks like it's not coming from a star, so I wonder if perhaps they're looking at a shot from the Starkiller Base superweapon.

EDIT : haha I was replying to a past from the previous pag and by the time I was done writing, there was like ten posts before mine.
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Looks like they're bringing in all new ship types for the new movies. Which makes sense of course, but there was some really neat designs in the games that could be used. New (or is it old...?) x-wing design with the half circle engines and new star destroyer (First Order Star Destroyer - Wookieepedia, the Star Wars Wiki - Wikiaon the wiki page) type. Pic of original style x-wing for comparison. Also I'd like to give a shout out to that storm trooper that got flung in the air, he's the real hero here.
 

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Only just now remembered about the new trailer.

Just watched it . . .

Jizzed in my pants.

Have made mental note to wear a condom when seeing this movie!
 

Aaron

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I wonder if that's Luke's original blue lightsaber, retrieved somehow from Bespin, that Finn is wielding. The first trailer had a shot of someone handing it over to another hand, right?
Wasn't that one of the things that was hinted at in that leak a year ago?
 

Aaron

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Haha I was genuinely wondering about this earlier. I'm sure there are some super hardcore Star Wars fans in America that are going to fly to Europe. I am a huge Star Wars fan and have been to half a dozen Star Wars conventions, 4 Celebrations etc. but am older now and I almost considered going the next day, but I couldn't deal with the thought of other people in the world knowing what happens while I don't. I don't even want the guy across from me in the tube to be thinking about the film he just saw last night that I am on the way to. There will be spoilers all over the internet before Americans can even see the film. I'd hate knowing that. Luckily I live in London. I think it sucks that we can't have a universal release date, but what are you gonna do? They need those epic midnight releases.
The Phantom Menace premiered earlier in the US than Europe. I was in school at the time and knew a fellow class mate and huge SW nerd who spent a shit ton of money going to the US to see it. He later told the class about the trip. He tried to persuade us that it had been awesome and worth every penny but you could see it in his eyes that he was lying. Hopefully history will not repeat itself. You know, rhyme. Like poetry.
 

Famm

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I will say one thing I noticed in the trailor. Looks as though a pilot gets mind controlled. There is a scene where the pilot jumps out and taps finn's shoulder. Finn turns around as if he recognizes the pilot but not from thier current environment. Also from the scene where the new bad guy looks to be torturing somebody, the face looks similiar to that pilot.
Its the same guy, his character is Poe Dameron and he's a major character. Not sure about the MC thing, the presumptive spoilered plot line explains some of your observations though.
 

Kuriin

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So if we're assuming the storyboard/spoilerboard is somewhat correct then Ren and Rey are twin brother and sister from Han and Leia, they were being trained by Luke along with some others where he failed and Ren and the rest sans Rey fell to the dark side. So Luke then fucking exiles himself just like Yoda and the rest? Honestly that's probably one of the lamest things about Star Wars, you lose one fight so you go meditate about it for the rest of your life in some backwater shit hole? I'm assuming Ren's eventual master is some all encompassing Sith that fills that dark side void that Luke doesn't trust himself in dealing with.

With all that said I don't trust it as accurate as Luke basically isn't in the movie at all and that would seem a bit odd when he was clearly there for the shooting of the movie.
Isn't this what happens in the books?
 

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So if we're assuming the storyboard/spoilerboard is somewhat correct then Ren and Rey are twin brother and sister from Han and Leia, they were being trained by Luke along with some others where he failed and Ren and the rest sans Rey fell to the dark side. So Luke then fucking exiles himself just like Yoda and the rest? Honestly that's probably one of the lamest things about Star Wars, you lose one fight so you go meditate about it for the rest of your life in some backwater shit hole? I'm assuming Ren's eventual master is some all encompassing Sith that fills that dark side void that Luke doesn't trust himself in dealing with.

With all that said I don't trust it as accurate as Luke basically isn't in the movie at all and that would seem a bit odd when he was clearly there for the shooting of the movie.
This isn't a spoiler for a part about meditating on backwater shtiholes: In previous cases, it wasn't that they lost one fight: They had actually lost the whole war. They were hiding from the Emperor waiting for the twins to grow up, where they hoped/Force-knew that one of them would be trainable to take on Vader/Palpatine, since they couldn't. Yoda was the most powerful Force user left alive and he couldn't beat Palpatine. Dagobah was ostensibly rife with natural Dark Side energy that allow Yoda to hide there, while Obi-wan watched over Luke more directly; prequel retconning not withstanding, Lucas made pretty good arguments as to why those things would have been that way.
 

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So if we're assuming the storyboard/spoilerboard is somewhat correct then Ren and Rey are twin brother and sister from Han and Leia, they were being trained by Luke along with some others where he failed and Ren and the rest sans Rey fell to the dark side. So Luke then fucking exiles himself just like Yoda and the rest? Honestly that's probably one of the lamest things about Star Wars, you lose one fight so you go meditate about it for the rest of your life in some backwater shit hole? I'm assuming Ren's eventual master is some all encompassing Sith that fills that dark side void that Luke doesn't trust himself in dealing with.

With all that said I don't trust it as accurate as Luke basically isn't in the movie at all and that would seem a bit odd when he was clearly there for the shooting of the movie.
From what I gathered, from all the leaked info, Ren is Han's son and was abandoned at Luke's Jedi academy for some reason. Rey is Luke's daughter that was abandoned because he wanted her to be safe from those that hunt him. Both Ren and Rey grew up without parents and force sensitive. Something happened that wiped Rey's memory but not Ren's.
 

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Been attending a conference this week so not enough time to chime in but I'm feeling... (for the sake of pretending Spoilerman and the EU didn't exist)

Han is going to run into Finn and Rey and determine they're going to be the true hope for the galaxy. He knows (or thinks he knows) where Luke is and feels that only with his training will they be able to win this war. As he desperately attempts to get them to Luke or Lupita he dies in the process. Han dies, Finn and Rey make it to the temple and finds Luke, hood comes down, movie goes black.
 

Khalan

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Im gonna be real pissed if he dont at least see luke kick a little ass. I mean I want to see super-badass jedi master luke, not geriatric diaper wearing luke.