Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)

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iannis

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Am I the only one that doesn't really care? It will be decent. Better than the Phantom Trilogy, not as good as Fury Road.

I doubt I'll see it in a theater, but it will probably be worth the cost of the ticket.
 
chaos

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I will be legit disappointed if it isn't straight up amazing. They've had so much time, so many smart people, so many correct decisions made, I am ready for it.
 
Cinge

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Iannis_sl said:
Am I the only one that doesn't really care? It will be decent. Better than the Phantom Trilogy, not as good as Fury Road.

I doubt I'll see it in a theater, but it will probably be worth the cost of the ticket.
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Why make any dumb guesses on it's quality? Just go watch the damn thing and go from there.
 
Quaid

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I hope the relationship between the brother & sister is as fundamentally 'true' as the relationship between Vader & Luke. How it mirrored many men's relationships with their fathers (divergent paths, the idea of mentorship, adolescent estrangement, reconciliation near the end, etc) I think really spoke to a whole generation.

If they can pull that off, and I really hope they do, they'll do justice to the original.
 
Palum

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chaos_sl said:
I will be legit disappointed if it isn't straight up amazing. They've had so much time, so many smart people, so many correct decisions made, I am ready for it.
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I'm kind of in this camp as well because you know that they basically had unlimited resources to do this right. Of course, fool me twice...
 
Royal

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Siddar_sl said:
No problem with the Black guy its the white girl that I have a problem with. Star Wars was always at its core through the entire first three movies about the relationship between sons and there fathers. The broken unresolved jagged wound of the Vadar, Leia relationship is also central to complete narrative of first three movies.

The concept was so appealing that the next three movies went back and told the story of the father. But lacking the conflict of the father, son relationship of the original movies they were far less appealing. The conflict between Luke and Vader was the driving theme of all the good Star Wars movies. Now we get a hunger games fifteen year old girl as ether the Luke are the Han of the new movie while the Leia role has vanished in order to make room for giving the older characters screen time.

They will very likely regret there casting choices for this movie. Someone is going to get fired over this. They will ether reboot after the first film or there will be a white boy joining the cast as a main character in the second movie.
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That's not a casting decision, it's a writing choice. They wrote a female lead into the story.

edit: I would also point out that the first movie was great all on it's own, before there were any sequels, when we had no idea of Vader's relationship to Luke and Leia apart from he being the one who "killed" Luke's father.
 
Royal

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Palum_sl said:
I'm kind of in this camp as well because you know that they basically had unlimited resources to do this right. Of course, fool me twice...
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Well they did move the release date up after it had already started, so they shortened the timetable for making it by several months. That could come back to bite 'em.
 
chaos

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Which, you know, much like the first Star Wars movie with a female lead back in 1977 and all the anti-SJW drama that prompted.
 
Mist

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Back onto the topic, I like how every scene we see shows every locale just ripped the fuck apart. I imagine the various generals and moffs in the empire just fought the rebellion and each other over every scrap of dirty, and there's little in the way of civilization standing in the galaxy.
 
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Siddar_sl said:
No problem with the Black guy its the white girl that I have a problem with. Star Wars was always at its core through the entire first three movies about the relationship between sons and there fathers. The broken unresolved jagged wound of the Vadar, Leia relationship is also central to complete narrative of first three movies.

The concept was so appealing that the next three movies went back and told the story of the father. But lacking the conflict of the father, son relationship of the original movies they were far less appealing. The conflict between Luke and Vader was the driving theme of all the good Star Wars movies. Now we get a hunger games fifteen year old girl as ether the Luke are the Han of the new movie while the Leia role has vanished in order to make room for giving the older characters screen time.

They will very likely regret there casting choices for this movie. Someone is going to get fired over this. They will ether reboot after the first film or there will be a white boy joining the cast as a main character in the second movie.
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Why do people keep referring to Rey as little girl or fifteen year old? No idea how old her character is supposed to be but I could guess close in age to ren. The real life actress was 21 or 22 at time of filming.

I'm perfectly fine with the leading roles as far as looks is concerned. We will see how they act and the script they have to work with.

I agree with some others that I very much dislike when they alter an established character to a different race. No issue with starting new characters of mixed races. Can you imagine the media uproar if someone like falcon or warmachine were cast as white males?
 
Siddar

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Frenzic_sl said:
Why do people keep referring to Rey as little girl or fifteen year old? No idea how old her character is supposed to be but I could guess close in age to ren. The real life actress was 21 or 22 at time of filming.

I'm perfectly fine with the leading roles as far as looks is concerned. We will see how they act and the script they have to work with.

I agree with some others that I very much dislike when they alter an established character to a different race. No issue with starting new characters of mixed races. Can you imagine the media uproar if someone like falcon or warmachine were cast as white males?
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Because she looks like a fifteen year old who just stepped off the set of hunger games.
 
Palum

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Mist_sl said:
Back onto the topic, I like how every scene we see shows every locale just ripped the fuck apart. I imagine the various generals and moffs in the empire just fought the rebellion and each other over every scrap of dirty, and there's little in the way of civilization standing in the galaxy.
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Well I imagine the rebellion only grew exponentially after RotJ as well. Of course it appears they weren't entirely successful politically judging by the extensive wreckage...
 
Royal

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Maybe he equates that to tomboyish woman in a warrior queen type of role.

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Frenzied Wombat

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He was still a side character and also initially betrayed the heroes (even if somewhat forced). But if you think they should have no problem with the original series then white men shouldn't have issues with this one. Still plenty of white and/or male heroes.

However, once a black dude becomes a main heroic character, oh no, white dudes can't relate. It is so ridiculous. It's not like this is a story about inner city life. This is all fiction not substantially grounded in any real life culture or experience. Frenzied, maul, and whoever else are basically saying he can't relate because of skin color (well, and their own racist projections). It makes no rational sense.
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Well, I don't think it's the fact alone that he's black. For instance, I felt that Samuel Jackson rocked as Windu, and if he hadn't played that role and was instead starring as the "new" main protoganist in this Star Wars I don't think I'd be feeling the same way. The guy they got to play this role is a nobody, looks as "black" as you can possibly get, and doesn't seem to be particularly badass. It just kinda has this "PC feel" around the whole selection process.
 
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